Why no 210 cabs for gallien Krueger?

[growler571]

can someone please tell me why gallien Krueger has discontinued all of their 210 cabs? I have a 700rbII 115 combo I want to add an RBH or neo 210 cab too and they don't make them anymore. Why would they do this? an RBH 210 or neo 210 would sound great together with a 15 inch woofer. Pisses me right off. Any thoughts on why gallien Krueger discontinued their 210 cabs?

 

[cfsporn]

They still make 210s. CX 210 Specs

As for the whole mixing cabs thing, I'm still burnt out from last week's mixed cab war...


Let's just say I don't recommend it.

 

[growler571]

wasn't the RBH 210 designed to pair well with the rbh115 combos?

 

[cfsporn]

wasn't the RBH 210 designed to pair well with the rbh115 combos?

Possibly, but since the RBH210 was discontinued, your best bet is to pair it up with another RBH115.

 

[growler571]

That's the thing my rbII 115 combo has great punchy deep low end but not much high end for funk and any time you need a more edgy tone. the thing is I want to add more treble to my combo without having to sell my combo and get a whole new rig. Adding the rbh115 cab will just make it louder and more bottom end but not tighter and brighter like a 210 would. I may check out the cx series cabs by GK.

 

[cfsporn]

That's the thing my rbII 115 combo has great punchy deep low end but not much high end for funk and any time you need a more edgy tone. the thing is I want to add more treble to my combo without having to sell my combo and get a whole new rig. Adding the rbh115 cab will just make it louder and more bottom end but not tighter and brighter like a 210 would. I may check out the cx series cabs by GK.

The RBH115 can be pretty bright, as can the 1001RB. What are your settings at?

 

[B-string]

The 210's were poor sellers. If the CX 210 doesn't sell well it will suffer the same fate. They (G-K) has one factory in California, no space left for units that don't sell. It is not like they have a couple third party houses stamping them out for them.

 

[beaglesandbass]

FWIW they still have the MB210 combo

 

[Jim Carr]

That's the thing my rbII 115 combo has great punchy deep low end but not much high end for funk and any time you need a more edgy tone. the thing is I want to add more treble to my combo without having to sell my combo and get a whole new rig. Adding the rbh115 cab will just make it louder and more bottom end but not tighter and brighter like a 210 would. I may check out the cx series cabs by GK.

Perhaps all true, but in general, 210 cabs are not intrinsically "brighter" than 115 cabs. It all depends on the drivers, possible x-over/horn drivers, and cabinet geometry...Don't forget to EQ for what you want!

 

[B-string]

Case in point the NEO115 has more mids and highs and not as much low end as the NEO410.

 

[bigtone23]

I was looking for perhaps a 2x10" Neo, but they were scarce at best. I got the 2x12" version instead. Love it!

 

[FirewalZ]

12's are the new 10's...

 

[buldog5151bass]

People are going to 12s mostly. a few years ago all I read here was vertically stacking 2x10s - not much now.Companies are staying lean in their catalogs.

 

[FirewalZ]

+1 Yep....give the GK 2-12 cab's a whirl, you may find you don't need the 15'. I use a GK MB212-ii combo as my main rig, even large outdoor stages I have yet to push it beyond 25-30% of its capabilities

 

[petrus61]

I've got two RBH 2x10's and a Neo 115III. I use the 2x10's at rehearsal and usually will use a 2x10 w/my 115 at gigs because I like to live dangerously. Not sure what year the 10's are from, but they gotta be at least 10 years old and still going strong. They are on the heavy side, but sound great. I think GK initially had a 2x10 Neo when the line was first introduced, but it was discontinued IIRC.

 

[samson3382]

People are going to 12s mostly. a few years ago all I read here was vertically stacking 2x10s - not much now.Companies are staying lean in their catalogs.

Ive read postings by smaller cabinet designers here on TB that say, more or less, the price point vs performance of a 10 vs a 12 favors 12s.

 

[H2okie]

Ive read postings by smaller cabinet designers here on TB that say, more or less, the price point vs performance of a 10 vs a 12 favors 12s.

I think this is true. The cost of a 10" driver is about the same as. 12". And you can get a higher sound pressure level (move more air). I think this is what killed the 8x8 cabs. $90 to $100 per driver x 8. Versus 4 x $100 for 12's to push about the same sound pressure with higher efficiency.
I tend to like the punch in the array of smaller speakers ... But it's pricey

 

[MNAirHead]

I own a bunch of GK stuff... Don't preguess what the speaker dimension will sound like.

 

[KickingBass]

The 210's were poor sellers. If the CX 210 doesn't sell well it will suffer the same fate. They (G-K) has one factory in California, no space left for units that don't sell. It is not like they have a couple third party houses stamping them out for them.

Slight derail: do they always make all their cabs here in the U.S.?

 

[KPJ]

The 210's were poor sellers. If the CX 210 doesn't sell well it will suffer the same fate. They (G-K) has one factory in California, no space left for units that don't sell. It is not like they have a couple third party houses stamping them out for them.

And that would be a shame. I use a CX210 as my main cab and it is fantastic. Very light and sounds great with both my 700RB-II and Tech21 VTBass 500. It has a strong low mid presence and does not fart out. Anyone looking for a a grab and go cab that can handle any single cab type gig should check one out.