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Within my rights, or driven by greed?

SamTheButcher

Yis, actually.
Sep 25, 2004
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Charlotte NC
I'll try to make this as clear and quick as possible out of the gate.
I'm in the market for a new fridge; my current one still works , but it's over 20 yrs old and showing signs of age.
I've been comparing different models online etc., no hurry, planned to not make a purchase for at least a couple of weeks.
I have a credit card from a certain big box store that offers 18 months same as cash no interest, and planned to make my purchase there.
Anyways, yesterday, at lunch time, I walked into a said big box chain store for my first 'hands on' look at what I've been seeing online.
This was not my local store, (I'm a mobile service tech), store is about 35 miles from my home.

I'm not a person who can afford to get anything extravagant; single dad with 2 kids still at home.

To get what we need, I'm figuring on paying 850-1000 bucks. So I see this one fridge, on sale for $898, regularly $1299. Must of came right out of the crate, I think, the handles weren't on it yet.
I open the door to look inside, and there is a tag/sticker on the inside that says 'open box item', no missing items, no damage, full warranty, etc....$549. :)

I call over a floor person who confirms "Yes, that's the real price."

He doesn't know the history of it, and goes to find someone who might.
Appliance mgr. for the day comes over, says she thinks it went straight from the warehouse to a home, only to find out it either wouldnt fit thru the door, or in the designated space.
She says delivery and set up comes free.
Then she sees the price and starts.... "I can't believe that price.....wow".....and then, "that can't be right, that's got to be a mistake", etc....
The Open Box Tag has the correct SKU# and model# of the fridge its stuck on; and I had already been told that was the only model in the store.
She confirms all the above, I tell her I want it.

This is where the fun begins.

She tries punching in numbers to start the sale, but something isn't right. It keeps coming up with error codes.
She calls the asst. store mgr...he tries some more with the same results. He says he can't complete the sale.
He then starts telling me that there must be some mistake, that the tag must have been created for a different fridge, that it couldn't possibly been that price, that someone removed it from another fridge and put it on this one, etc, etc...and I can't have it.

He starts getting puffy when I remind him that there are NO other units in that store and the SKU# and model #'s match the unit; he gives the girl a real dirty look I guess for her telling me these things.
More double talk and obvious BS...not gonna sell it to me. Points to the date on the open box tag-3/23/14, and says no way would it have "sat in store for almost two months at that price."
An obvious exaggeration, which makes me question everything else he's been saying.

He then keeps holding the tag pointing at the date right up within a foot of my face for a good 10 seconds or so while I tell him I don't care when the tag was generated or how long it sat. (A very rude gesture IMO, took some effort from me not to snatch it out of his hand).

The handles were not installed which made it hard to open, and not very attractive. Open Box price tag was on the inside.

He says that it's an "urban myth" that a retailer has to sell an item at the tagged price even if it's a mistake.

Askes if I would like help with anything else...:dead:

As I was walking out, I decide to ask someone in another department if the head store manager was available. He is, but as it happens "attitude guy" ends up going to get him.
Great..
Anyways, Manager introduces himself, walks back to appliances with me, calmly overrides the error codes, and lets me buy the fridge. Attitude boy is not happy.

Wish I could have taken possession of it then and there, but didn't have the vehicle for it.
Hoping it wont get "tampered with" before I can get it.

I guess my question in hindsight is, did I push it too far?

There very well could have been something wrong with the tag, and someone did make a mistake.
I would feel bad if someone (the girl, or the 'tag person') lost their job because I had to save a few bucks.
 
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It's not an urban myth. In business law we went through contract/merchant law. If that was advertised for that particular fridge I thought they sold it at that price. I'm not a lawyer but that's what I remember in my textbook (which is a recent edition of course. Heaven forbid a book cost less than 300 $)
 
You were within your rights. That is not that crazy a markdown.
$549 vs. $849 regular "sale" price - under it's possibly dubious life it's not like you stole it. It's the proverbial "40 year old virgin" -sure it's a virgin but you gotta wonder why.:eyebrow:

As far as someone losing their job - hmm. In many businesses a cashier has choice if their register is short - have it deducted from paycheck or lose job. Ditto with certain salespeople.

I had to cover a client's $500 loss when I mis-priced something on his web site and it sold next day. I had screwed up while posting up 50-60 items late at night. Stuff happens. Enjoy the cold, hard cash you saved and treat your kids to something special to celebrate.:thumbsup:
 
The must sell for advertised thing is not legally binding here, at least from what I hear.

That being said, no real store owner is going to miss out on this deal. It is better to eat the $100 than lose the customer, let alone one using an in-store credit card. The kid with the attitude clearly doesn't understand the sales game and economics. You are going to spend more there than they might possibly lose on this deal.

You were in the right OP. Punk kid got good lesson.
 
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I see no problem here. The Store Manager could have simply sided with the Appliance Manager and told you the same thing she did, that is was a mistake, we're terrible sorry etc. and sent you packing. I really doubt anybody got in trouble. There was a paperwork snafu. It happens. No biggie.
 
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You did not go too far. It is better to get the manager involved as soon as possible with this sort of thing to avoid getting the sales people all worked up. Sales clerks do have tough jobs, dealing with the public and all. Seems like their are myriad ways to get in trouble from possible pay reduction at every turn or getting written up because someone doesn't like their sales style or the way they stand or the way they look at the customer. Customers can be brutal.

But yes, you did nothing wrong.
 
It was within your rights. I work in high-dollar item sales, and of course all the involved employees don't like it when the tag is wrong and it means a significant discount, but I certainly don't argue with the customer about it. I just go get it taken care of because that's how it works. The idea of wanting someone to pay $400 more so you can make an extra $20 in commission is just so pathetic... that associate sounds like a douche.
 
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You did not go too far. It is better to get the manager involved as soon as possible with this sort of thing to avoid getting the sales people all worked up. Sales clerks do have tough jobs, dealing with the public and all. Seems like their are myriad ways to get in trouble from possible pay reduction at every turn or getting written up because someone doesn't like their sales style or the way they stand or the way they look at the customer. Customers can be brutal.
You make a great point - let someone higher up the hierarchy make the call on what company policy is. I remember someone telling me at one job to use "company policy" as a tactic to make it less personal for both parties.
 
I think you paid too much. Do you have any idea what the markup is to begin with? You were well within your rights. If people want to push a Capitalist society on us, then they should expect us to be capitalists. The Store Manager wouldn't have agreed to it if they were going to lose money.

You're fine; and let this be a lesson to you in other purchases.

I talked them down from $7,000.00 to $4,000.00 on my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Now how is that possible? Could it be that it was overpriced by, say, about $3,000.00?

That's right.
 
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I'll try to make this as clear and quick as possible out of the gate.
I'm in the market for a new fridge; my current one still works , but it's over 20 yrs old and showing signs of age.
I've been comparing different models online etc., no hurry, planned to not make a purchase for at least a couple of weeks.
I have a credit card from a certain big box store that offers 18 months same as cash no interest, and planned to make my purchase there.
Anyways, yesterday, at lunch time, I walked into a said big box chain store for my first 'hands on' look at what I've been seeing online.
This was not my local store, (I'm a mobile service tech), store is about 35 miles from my home.

I'm not a person who can afford to get anything extravagant; single dad with 2 kids still at home.

To get what we need, I'm figuring on paying 850-1000 bucks. So I see this one fridge, on sale for $898, regularly $1299. Must of came right out of the crate, I think, the handles weren't on it yet.
I open the door to look inside, and there is a tag/sticker on the inside that says 'open box item', no missing items, no damage, full warranty, etc....$549. :)

I call over a floor person who confirms "Yes, that's the real price."

He doesn't know the history of it, and goes to find someone who might.
Appliance mgr. for the day comes over, says she thinks it went straight from the warehouse to a home, only to find out it either wouldnt fit thru the door, or in the designated space.
She says delivery and set up comes free.
Then she sees the price and starts.... "I can't believe that price.....wow".....and then, "that can't be right, that's got to be a mistake", etc....
The Open Box Tag has the correct SKU# and model# of the fridge its stuck on; and I had already been told that was the only model in the store.
She confirms all the above, I tell her I want it.

This is where the fun begins.

She tries punching in numbers to start the sale, but something isn't right. It keeps coming up with error codes.
She calls the asst. store mgr...he tries some more with the same results. He says he can't complete the sale.
He then starts telling me that there must be some mistake, that the tag must have been created for a different fridge, that it couldn't possibly been that price, that someone removed it from another fridge and put it on this one, etc, etc...and I can't have it.

He starts getting puffy when I remind him that there are NO other units in that store and the SKU# and model #'s match the unit; he gives the girl a real dirty look I guess for her telling me these things.
More double talk and obvious BS...not gonna sell it to me. Points to the date on the open box tag-3/23/14, and says no way would it have "sat in store for almost two months at that price."
An obvious exaggeration, which makes me question everything else he's been saying.

He then keeps holding the tag pointing at the date right up within a foot of my face for a good 10 seconds or so while I tell him I don't care when the tag was generated or how long it sat. (A very rude gesture IMO, took some effort from me not to snatch it out of his hand).

The handles were not installed which made it hard to open, and not very attractive. Open Box price tag was on the inside.

He says that it's an "urban myth" that a retailer has to sell an item at the tagged price even if it's a mistake.

Askes if I would like help with anything else...:dead:

As I was walking out, I decide to ask someone in another department if the head store manager was available. He is, but as it happens "attitude guy" ends up going to get him.
Great..
Anyways, Manager introduces himself, walks back to appliances with me, calmly overrides the error codes, and lets me buy the fridge. Attitude boy is not happy.

Wish I could have taken possession of it then and there, but didn't have the vehicle for it.
Hoping it wont get "tampered with" before I can get it.

I guess my question in hindsight is, did I push it too far?

There very well could have been something wrong with the tag, and someone did make a mistake.
I would feel bad if someone (the girl, or the 'tag person') lost their job because I had to save a few bucks.
if the price on the inside of the unit was different from thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeeoEJLQOw8&feature=player_detailpage#t=0rice,he listed price on the outside of the unit an argument could be made that the tag visible to the public is the price.....that said i think i would have argued for the lower price...manager guy had the authority tho do that,and attitude guy pr
I think you paid too much. Do you have any idea what the markup is to begin with? You were well within your rights. If people want to push a Capitalist society on us, then they should expect us to be capitalists. The Store Manager wouldn't have agreed to it if they were going to lose money.

You're fine; and let this be a lesson to you in other purchases.

I talked them down from $7,000.00 to $4,000.00 on my 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Now how is that possible? Could it be that it was overpriced by, say, about $3,000.00?

That's right.
car dealers never ask what a car is worth....the question always is what can we get for it?.....some companies won't even tell the sales guys how much they paid just to keep them looking for maximum bucks....
 
I think you paid too much. Do you have any idea what the markup is to begin with?

The markup on refrigerators isn't near as high as you would think. Pretty sure they were breaking even at the outside tagged price, maybe even losing a little money. They lost big on the price OP got, but the store manager did the right thing.