Worship Bass Pedalboards

[JKos]

The part circled in red on the left is the audio portion. Everything to the right is power supply. The power supply can be made incredibly small compared to that and powered by a pedal board supply. Reference Sushi Box FX, for example.

Yes, that output transformer would drive enclosure size, but it can be done. There are other transformer options that would likely work extremely well. But, given the simplicity of the circuit, the transformer might just be the whole sauce.

 

[timendous]

I know the love for the Damnation Audio MBD2 and would love to get my hands on one. However, I have a trade offer of my Abduction Audio Cab Sim pedal for a Damntation Audio Curmudgeon Dist2. Has anyone here played one and is there any possible practical use for worship? (We play contemporary worship like Bethel, Hillsong, Phil Wickham, Maverick City, Elevation, Etc.) Or would I be better suited continuing to try and find an OD rather than Dist? Any response appreciated!!

 

[SteveC]

View attachment 4637140 The part circled in red on the left is the audio portion. Everything to the right is power supply. The power supply can be made incredibly small compared to that and powered by a pedal board supply. Reference Sushi Box FX, for example.

Yes, that output transformer would drive enclosure size, but it can be done. There are other transformer options that would likely work extremely well. But, given the simplicity of the circuit, the transformer might just be the whole sauce.

Maybe, but would it be the same? Is the final product and the tone it produces greater than the sum of its parts? I don’t know. There is something special about the REDDI.

 

[SemiDriven]

I know the love for the Damnation Audio MBD2 and would love to get my hands on one. However, I have a trade offer of my Abduction Audio Cab Sim pedal for a Damntation Audio Curmudgeon Dist2. Has anyone here played one and is there any possible practical use for worship? (We play contemporary worship like Bethel, Hillsong, Phil Wickham, Maverick City, Elevation, Etc.) Or would I be better suited continuing to try and find an OD rather than Dist? Any response appreciated!!

My gut says OD would be better suited than Distortion for a good number of worship songs.

But my gut has been known to be wrong before!

FWIW, my current worship board has zero OD (and I have two MBD1's).

 

[Leigh Semmens]

View attachment 4637140 The part circled in red on the left is the audio portion. Everything to the right is power supply. The power supply can be made incredibly small compared to that and powered by a pedal board supply. Reference Sushi Box FX, for example.

Yes, that output transformer would drive enclosure size, but it can be done. There are other transformer options that would likely work extremely well. But, given the simplicity of the circuit, the transformer might just be the whole sauce.

GIven it's location, I'd also suggest that the transformer is providing some " (physical) protection" for the tube.

 

[MTN.bass72]

I know the love for the Damnation Audio MBD2 and would love to get my hands on one. However, I have a trade offer of my Abduction Audio Cab Sim pedal for a Damntation Audio Curmudgeon Dist2. Has anyone here played one and is there any possible practical use for worship? (We play contemporary worship like Bethel, Hillsong, Phil Wickham, Maverick City, Elevation, Etc.) Or would I be better suited continuing to try and find an OD rather than Dist? Any response appreciated!!

I've been debating letting mine go. PM me, we'll talk

 

[ExaltBass]

New additions Sunday. The BassRIG/Cali76 CB combo sounded great in my iems and in the house. Played my ‘59 P Bass with TI Jazz Flats.

 

[Naack]

I have a Cali76 CB coming in tomorrow, I am excited to try it at church!

 

[yaksonator]

I took the hx stomp off to clean it up and plugged everything else back in. All of a sudden my tone came alive…. Pretty frustrating.

this is my latest. Trying to cop the octave distortion thing with this setup and it doesn’t seem to be going very well. I might try to get an ehx bms.

 

[MascisMan]

I took the hx stomp off to clean it up and plugged everything else back in. All of a sudden my tone came alive…. Pretty frustrating.

this is my latest. Trying to cop the octave distortion thing with this setup and it doesn’t seem to be going very well. I might try to get an ehx bms.
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There are some EHX BMS presets out there for the C4. Have you tried those?

 

[SteveC]

I took the hx stomp off to clean it up and plugged everything else back in. All of a sudden my tone came alive…. Pretty frustrating.

this is my latest. Trying to cop the octave distortion thing with this setup and it doesn’t seem to be going very well. I might try to get an ehx bms.
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I gotta think with what you have there that a Stomp (as much as people seem to like them) isn't necessary.

 

[JeffTCS]

I took the hx stomp off to clean it up and plugged everything else back in. All of a sudden my tone came alive…. Pretty frustrating.

this is my latest. Trying to cop the octave distortion thing with this setup and it doesn’t seem to be going very well. I might try to get an ehx bms.
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If you're not able to do the octave fuzz thing with what you have there I don't think it's not having a BMS that's the issue. You should be able to do what and well beyond with that setup, without the quirks of the BMS.

 

[furym]

I’m on spring break and got bored.

 

[Johno Dunn]

Just got the Warm Audio in a trade. I’ll be debuting it at church on Sunday!

 

[epoxo57]

New additions Sunday. The BassRIG/Cali76 CB combo sounded great in my iems and in the house. Played my ‘59 P Bass with TI Jazz Flats.

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So you went from this a few days ago to both your Origin units in the classifieds. Just curious on why?

 

[ExaltBass]

So you went from this a few days ago to both your Origin units in the classifieds. Just curious on why?

I was curious to try them. I liked them a bunch, and if I were doing some more rock gigs I’d have kept them. However, I really don’t need a SVT Cab sim at church, and the Arkham Oracle and Empress are my preference for WT. I also have an api TranZformer LX on the shelf, AND (being a Bergantino fan) I plan on adding the Studio B preamp pedal when that is released (hopefully Summer NAMM?).

That said, the BassRIG was a lot of fun, and sounded great.

 

[furym]

So here’s a question that occurred to me when perusing the Preamp/DI thread:

Is it common with active basses for them to overdrive effects and pedalboards? My Fender Ultra has an 18V preamp in it and I notice I have to significantly reduce the level it sends through my pedalboard to not “blow out” my effects. When using a compressor and analog effects, I have to use the compressor as a limiter. With a digital unit I can turn down the input on the unit. I know, turn down the volume knob on the bass. But, why would the effects not be made in such a way as to handle the level coming out of the bass? Or I guess, why would a bass preamp be made so hot that it would blow out many effects? Maybe I just don’t understand the workings of active bass preamps or why they would need to be so hot in the first place. I know when plugging directly into my amp I can set the input gain low (or some amps have a padded input). Maybe I am answering my own question here. The active bass needs a “pad” before it goes into the pedalboard for most effects?

 

[dmc79]

A while back I had an EHX Bass Soul Food overdrive. I don't think I gave it a fair go really before selling it, only playing it at home and even then not very much. I picked up another recently and this time will make more effort to see what I can get from it, both home and in church, for some mild drive / extra hair / bit of grit, or whatever you call it. I'm still not a fan of the loud EHX footswitches though, or the popping noise when it's stomped on. I understand the pop can be tamed by moving an internal switch, will have to try that.

Meanwhile, after realising I've had GAS for 4 entire years for a Darkglass VMT, I finally have one in my possession. I've seen comments where people say there's some sweet magic going on in this box and use it as an always-on pedal. I guess I'm after it as something to stomp on for the odd song here and there as I see fit (it's meant to be good for songs like 'This Is Amazing Grace'), but I'll give it a good tryout and won't rule anything out. Perhaps it might wipe out the BSF.

I have a very simple setup of Tuner & VTDI on a Nano board, so whichever drive I pick will just go inbetween those. I have seen comments that drives such as the VMT like to be 'pushed' but I am hoping it works well as a standalone drive pedal as I'm not into stacking stuff and always have the VTDI last in the chain as I use the DI to go to FOH.

I need to explore how the pedals are with my bass too, which is still pretty new to me - 2008 USA Precision in Black / Black / Maple, with upgraded Custom Shop pickups. Should be able to make a joyful and loud noise (as instructed to in the Bible!) with all this gear!

 

[JKos]

Or I guess, why would a bass preamp be made so hot that it would blow out many effects?

The only answer to that question is that the preamp designer made a decision to do so. There is no reason it must be that way. Some preamps have an internal pot to adjust the output level. Might yours?

But, why would the effects not be made in such a way as to handle the level coming out of the bass?

It has to do with the classic 9 V power for effects. Without using voltage multipliers (which are becoming a little more common), a 9 V supply does not leave much headroom for the analog circuits. The pickup/effects interaction, level wise, has been good for a long time but some pickups and some preamps violate the available headroom.

 

[epoxo57]

I was curious to try them. I liked them a bunch, and if I were doing some more rock gigs I’d have kept them. However, I really don’t need a SVT Cab sim at church, and the Arkham Oracle and Empress are my preference for WT. I also have an api TranZformer LX on the shelf, AND (being a Bergantino fan) I plan on adding the Studio B preamp pedal when that is released (hopefully Summer NAMM?).

That said, the BassRIG was a lot of fun, and sounded great.

Gotcha Just curious. I have the SV and used it at church as well and sounded pretty good in the mix and in my IEM's which is the most important for me. If I didn't get the SV, I considered the Arkham...may still some day to my wallet's dismay.......