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Would you rather...
- Thread starter WilliamSandoval
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I am confused.
If you are talking about stage tone, I rather sacrifice a bass heavy tone for something I can hear clearly. I do it at every show I play...
If you are talking about stage tone, I rather sacrifice a bass heavy tone for something I can hear clearly. I do it at every show I play...
Guess I'm not certain that with the right rig why you'd have to sacrifice either. Maybe I just don't understand why you're asking the question this way.
I guess under those circumstances I cut bass for more punch and volume if my rig is what's generating itself to the dance floor or the room. A big woofy muddy bass with no punch does nothing for me. If the gig calls for subs we use subs to get that message through.
Id take the volume so long as the low-mids are good enough to cut through the mix.
In fact a few minutes ago I ordered used a Markbass classic 215 thats only rated down to 50hz, so I may be experiencing this scenario this weekend.
In fact a few minutes ago I ordered used a Markbass classic 215 thats only rated down to 50hz, so I may be experiencing this scenario this weekend.
If I can't hear myself, or if it's a 3- or -4 piece, volume for bass.
If it's a 5- or more piece, especially with keyboards, and fitting into the mix or good tone is more important, bass for volume.
If it's a 5- or more piece, especially with keyboards, and fitting into the mix or good tone is more important, bass for volume.
Id take the volume so long as the low-mids are good enough to cut through the mix.
In fact a few minutes ago I ordered used a Markbass classic 215 thats only rated down to 50hz, so I may be experiencing this scenario this weekend.
No, you won't. If anything, the low frequency spec on that cab is less exaggerated than most others. The specs you see in ads are completely meaningless.
Yeah, I know.
If it does 50hz okay, thats low enough imo; Id rather use the power for the frequencies that are heard.
Yeah, I know.
If it does 50hz okay, thats low enough imo; Id rather use the power for the frequencies that are heard.
+1
If it can do a real 50hz, up there close in output with the rest of the frequencies it's producing, it would be one of the deepest sounding cabs many of us have ever heard. What many folks percieve as "bass" is an octave above real bass which outside of a very few highend cabs requires dedicated subwoofers. An arguement can be made that bass cabs sound better without so much bass, as wierd as that may sound to some.
It'd probably take quite a while to dig up but somewhere in some old post, BFM posted a RTA of a Bob Marley and the Wailers show, pretty much what you think of as big, fat, deep bass. There was nothing going on below 50hz and the real big output didn't kick in until 60. Goes to show you what these rediculously low spec'd bass cabs can't do.
When running our PA, my subs are highpassed 40-50hz. They're as deep as you'd ever need to be, all the tone is in the harmonics.
When running our PA, my subs are highpassed 40-50hz. They're as deep as you'd ever need to be, all the tone is in the harmonics.
If by bass you mean tone personally I would rather give up volume than tone - tone is more important than volume - however, I love power or volume too.
Yep… the harmonic is what’s heard, the brain fills in the rest.
I’m typically cutting the lows anyway to get the notes to be clear. In the covers band I play with only one guitar (and drums), so I’m very busy, and my actual notes are important.
Hell, one PA power amp (retired to the music room now) has the option of 30hz or 50hz low-cut, and I set it to 50hz for the whole PA, with subs, and it sounds great.
Lows just suck up power for no real benefit.
I’m typically cutting the lows anyway to get the notes to be clear. In the covers band I play with only one guitar (and drums), so I’m very busy, and my actual notes are important.
Hell, one PA power amp (retired to the music room now) has the option of 30hz or 50hz low-cut, and I set it to 50hz for the whole PA, with subs, and it sounds great.
Lows just suck up power for no real benefit.
bass will resonate even at a lower volume.
bass you feel, volume you hear.
i would rather be felt.
bass you feel, volume you hear.
i would rather be felt.
