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Double Bass Yamahiko Double Bass Pickup

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ted burik said:
... Kiyohito recommends using a TRS-TRS cable with a "sub-shield" to connect the piezo pickup to an preamp or amplifier, and suggested an obscure Mogami cable (w2792) that I'm not able to locate online...
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It looks like the Mogami w2792 is bulk cable. You'd have to solder connectors to make an assembled cable.

MOGAMI® - Low Cost High Performance Superflexible Balanced Microphone Cables

https://www.performanceaudio.com/pr..._AJtkd35UrjdYkfSiYdYHpC78F0_CbZE2dsUQ5YSWtTf_
 
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So I have now played a handful of gigs, pubs and theatres. I think I haven’t quite gotten the hang of the Yamahiko (dual element) yet, but I can hear that my sound will improve with trial and error. Using with a Tonedexter ii. The g string is much quieter than the other strings which is annoying, I guess using a single element on the g side might balance it out? The arco sounded fantastic in the theatre today, the pizz is a bit thumpy and sustains much more than what I’m used to. Also certain notes are ringing out more (tamed to some degree with the Tonedexter eq but you sort of need to be able to do multiple cuts per section (low/mid/treble). In the pubs I’ve had mixed success tbh, the small rooms pose bigger problems. But yeah, I need to sort the difference in volume on my G asap.


P.s. I tried it once with a trs with ring disconnected, (to access the 10Mohm on t Dexter )plugged it in and, yes more bass. Not sure I need more low end!
 
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afroblue said:
So I have now played a handful of gigs, pubs and theatres. I think I haven’t quite gotten the hang of the Yamahiko (dual element) yet, but I can hear that my sound will improve with trial and error. Using with a Tonedexter ii. The g string is much quieter than the other strings which is annoying, I guess using a single element on the g side might balance it out? The arco sounded fantastic in the theatre today, the pizz is a bit thumpy and sustains much more than what I’m used to. Also certain notes are ringing out more (tamed to some degree with the Tonedexter eq but you sort of need to be able to do multiple cuts per section (low/mid/treble). In the pubs I’ve had mixed success tbh, the small rooms pose bigger problems. But yeah, I need to sort the difference in volume on my G asap.


P.s. I tried it once with a trs with ring disconnected, (to access the 10Mohm on t Dexter )plugged it in and, yes more bass. Not sure I need more low end!
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Yes, I have had the problem with the low output on the G string as well with the bridged version. I have not found a fix for it. The strings are more balanced on my base when using just the bassside, single element.

I have also found that 10 Meg on my bass is way too much, one Meg sounds a lot better
 
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afroblue said:
So I have now played a handful of gigs, pubs and theatres. I think I haven’t quite gotten the hang of the Yamahiko (dual element) yet, but I can hear that my sound will improve with trial and error. Using with a Tonedexter ii. The g string is much quieter than the other strings which is annoying, I guess using a single element on the g side might balance it out? The arco sounded fantastic in the theatre today, the pizz is a bit thumpy and sustains much more than what I’m used to. Also certain notes are ringing out more (tamed to some degree with the Tonedexter eq but you sort of need to be able to do multiple cuts per section (low/mid/treble). In the pubs I’ve had mixed success tbh, the small rooms pose bigger problems. But yeah, I need to sort the difference in volume on my G asap.


P.s. I tried it once with a trs with ring disconnected, (to access the 10Mohm on t Dexter )plugged it in and, yes more bass. Not sure I need more low end!
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Have you tried using the Saturation and Anti-feedback functions on the TD II to tame the notes that ringing out too much? The Anti-Feedback function attenuates the frequencies that jump out, while the Saturation function seems to “tighten” up the overall sound, which is especially useful at higher volumes. 70 or 75% works well for me.
 
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afroblue said:
I'll give those a try, I play mostly jazz gigs so I don't think the volume is crazy....
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even at moderate volumes, the anti-FB and Spaciousness can help if your amp is placed near to the bass. Also it is worth checking which phase/polarity works best each time you set up. It is an option on the output volume control..

TD II phase.png
 
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For those who are interested in the 4n7 capacitor, this is how it sounds like with my MK EUB, directed into JBL powered monitor. Sorry for the bad audio.



I have tried one with 3n3 and one without the capacitors. I don’t really find the difference in sound. It still has strong high and high mid I like to roll it down.
 
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Hi guys I have the UNC 20 1/4 dual sensor on the on the way! I already have the FC installed (I believe threads up) UNC 20 1/4. Has anyone had an experience where no modification was needed to their bridge and they could just swap them out without any fuss going from FC to Y?
 
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Anyone going from FC to Y 1/4 20 UNC if your non threaded sides fit properly you'll need to have the holes redone to fit the Y. The threaded sides go in great though. Lubricant would not worked in my case there was simply a difference in size.
 
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Jay Carter said:
Anyone going from FC to Y 1/4 20 UNC if your non threaded sides fit properly you'll need to have the holes redone to fit the Y. The threaded sides go in great though. Lubricant would not worked in my case there was simply a difference in size.
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Not in my case. Perfect fit. I did use paraffin on the threads and posts as someone suggested, and it's a great idea. I wish I knew that trick earlier. I used a lifeline for years and turning the adjusters was a real pain.
 
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lurk said:
Not in my case. Perfect fit. I did use paraffin on the threads and posts as someone suggested, and it's a great idea. I wish I knew that trick earlier. I used a lifeline for years and turning the adjusters was a real pain.
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I wonder if they changed the non thread sizes on the FC or Y on some models at some point. I have switched back and forth between FC and Y and the non threads spin 360 and rattle around if you even breath near them with the FC fitted. The fit was snug but not pinching at all or tight before I changed to Y and the fit with the Y now is the same snug not tight. My Yama's are 390 391 on the serial and the full circle I actually got from Amazon so not sure what exact year it was made.
 
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So I have 2 different volumes coming from each sensor one is more than double the other. I switched them over to see if it was the fit or something like that and the loud sensor was just louder but on the other side! Has anyone else come across this? I have been leaning towards a very E side dominant sound with a touch of the G phase flipped anyway so with that in mind it might not be a problem but just wondering if thats come up for anyone else?
 

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