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YAY! 32d notes

I know, I know speed isn't everything, but I was just practicing my slaping/popping as useual and I found out a way to play 32nd notes *yay* and there clean :)
I_'ve been improving it and seeing what I can do with it for the past few hours couse I've never played anything faster than 16th notes. Happy Happy Joy Joy :hyper:

I'm not trying to be a wanky show off, ...for all I know it isn't even anything special... but yay for me, I just accomplished something new.

Please share any other acomplishments or anything that makes you feel good about your playing. Let's call this an achievement list :smug:

yay for all
Alexx
 
Quick math:

240 bpm
= 240/60
= 4 beats per second
= 1 whole note per second (in 4/4 time)

So, 32nd beats would be simply 32 notes per second. What you need to be careful of is this - at some point these attack beats may begin producing a note of their own. What you need to do is stay in key.

For example, B = 30.8677 Hz, from a low B string, so, playing 32nd notes at 240 bpm would produce a 1.13 Hz beat pattern due to pitch interference. Therefor, you may wish to play at a lower tempo such as 231.5 bpm if playing in B.

You can adjust accordingly by multiplying by the 12th root of two and dividing by whole numbers.

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The clicks on your metronome represent quarter notes, not 32nd notes. If you play one note per click with the metronome set on 240bpm, you're effectively playing 32nd notes at 1/8 that speed, 30bpm.

Set your metronome to 80bpm, see if you can play 4 notes per click of the metronome, that'd be playing 16th notes. Now try playing twice as fast, which I personally can't do cleanly, and you're playing 32nd notes at that pace. Do you feel the difference? 32nd notes are really, really fast


Playing 32nd notes at 240bpm is 32 notes per second. I'd say that's 3-4 times faster than I can comfortably play
 
paz said:
do you rekon its humanly possible to play that fast? :bassist:
The faster you play the more you become limited by your endurance, right hand technique, muting skills, and the nature of a plucked bass string. So even if you could pluck a string 32 times per second, you'd have little to no control over muting and dynamics for individual notes. Of course, it wouldn't sound much like a normal bass at that speed no matter what you did.
 
A great example of what you all are talking about would be the song "Recuerdos de la Alhambra" by Francisco Tarrega, as recorded by the late (and great) classical guitarist Andres Segovia. 5 minutes of 32nd note tremolo picking...no joke. Probably only goes 80 bpm, but it's a good example for comparison.

In case anyone cared to know :eyebrow:
 
I think a pretty good way to measure speed(if you must) is to do quarter notes at X BPM. You'll probably end up at 400-600 BPM, which only digital metronomes can portray, but I think it's a little bit more accurate when it comes to it. I suppose 8th notes are good too. 16th and 32nd notes aren't so good for measuring speed because well, not only are they slightly less common, but it's easy for people to get confused and/or not really understand how fast you were playing.

Well, I find that my right hand can play a lot faster than my left hand can keep up with, so I don't really care heh.