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Double Bass YOU - on youtube (DB forum thread)

... IMO, the most significant thing is my buddy Zach on mando and clawhammer, and vocals on High on a Mountain. One of my favorite pickers to play with. Boy, I miss playing with him. ...

So just a week or so after posting this, Zach texts me and lets me know he is going to be in town next weekend and wants to know when we can play. MAN - I'll be grinning all the way until then, during that weekend, and for a good time after. I'm convinced it is due to the power of these boards! :D
 
@PaulCannon I bet that was a fun part to play. I never even though of playing with a mallet like that.
It was a little stressful, to be honest. It's one click faster than I was comfortable playing, and it's pretty exposed. The composer also didn't want to hear any extra fingerboard noise or other sloppiness, so there was a very narrow margin of error.
 
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Here's a nice production my ensemble did last year with electronic-ambient musician and visual artist Alva Noto. There's something approaching a "bass solo" a little after the 41:00 minute mark.



Very interesting combination. This Alva Noto is coming from a very different place than most of his fellow elecronic musicians. He has a perspective on form and contents that is not so much driven by combining loops and samples via sequencing but follows more the path of a hacker trying to dismantle the usual routines, digging into the essence of music that is made with electricity. His visuals are also astonishing.

During a talk he said that in the 80s he attended the concerts of east Berlins improvising jazz scene.

Another remarkable artist in this realm is Ryoji Ikeda.
 
Very interesting combination. This Alva Noto is coming from a very different place than most of his fellow elecronic musicians. He has a perspective on form and contents that is not so much driven by combining loops and samples via sequencing but follows more the path of a hacker trying to dismantle the usual routines, digging into the essence of music that is made with electricity. His visuals are also astonishing.

During a talk he said that in the 80s he attended the concerts of east Berlins improvising jazz scene.

Another remarkable artist in this realm is Ryoji Ikeda.
We've worked with a good number of electronic artists, and they all have their own unique approach. Carsten (aka alva noto) works very precisely with limited material. It's very clean and polished work.

We have a project coming up next year with Ryoji Ikeda. I personally love his piece for 100 cars.
 
We've worked with a good number of electronic artists, and they all have their own unique approach. Carsten (aka alva noto) works very precisely with limited material. It's very clean and polished work.

We have a project coming up next year with Ryoji Ikeda. I personally love his piece for 100 cars.


I was with the staff hosting one of his concerts at our Auditori, a place with the best sound equipment you can imagine, he insisted on renting different specific speakers for him. It was interesting how deep two sinewaves 2Hz apart can suck you in. I like electronic music best when reduced to its own parameters and not trying to mimick sounds from the organic world. The zeros and ones weaving the structure of his paradigm work great. It feels like sounds as if the computers (or wave generators) would enjoy making those. I certainly would.

If you write a book about your experiences with these Ensemble Modern projects, there might be some poeple interested in buying it ;-) I'm sure it's all quality stuff.

How was the process? I can hardly imagine Carsten wrote sheet music for you. Or di you propose the material? Do you feel the combination of electronics and acoustic is accomplished in those collaborations? The subject of control must be an omnipresent topic, as your guests are used to work with button control. To me the textures you are getting at are amazing. Compared to the recordings I know from Alva Noto their room (or the space?) is pretty different, sound closer, more "inside", this here is more distant.
 
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How was the process? I can hardly imagine Carsten wrote sheet music for you. Or di you propose the material? Do you feel the combination of electronics and acoustic is accomplished in those collaborations? The subject of control must be an omnipresent topic, as your guests are used to work with button control. To me the textures you are getting at are amazing. Compared to the recordings I know from Alva Noto their room (or the space?) is pretty different, sound closer, more "inside", this here is more distant.
Most of the material was coming from Xerrox Vol. 4, which he'd already released as a solo album. He worked with a professional orchestrator / arranger to make the parts and score, and that person was also in all the rehearsals acting as a quasi-conductor (we were playing with a click). We also had some try-out sessions a year beforehand, which is where this mallet-bass part came up.

A lot of the other electronic composers we work with prefer to let us improvise, so in that sense control is less important. The next one coming up is the YouTuber, Hainbach. My understanding is that will be a very loosely organized jam session.
 
I wish the audio was better on this, but here I am playing years and years ago with the late great Hod O'Brien. I was definitely out classed but I like what I was playing. I wish I hadn't sold that 5 string... also ***, I used to be skinny.


Heavy, Great playing. I have a great LP with Hod, Joe Puma and Red Mitchell!
Title track is here:


Here is my last Chicago show at Constellation with Jason Stein & Adam Shead. Sandy Ewen & Weasel Walter guest in the second set.
 
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Thanks for sharing both of those! Both are killing. I haven't heard that record with Hod and Red before. I'm going to have to find that on cd... I'm looking forward to playing with Adam the 29th at the Hungry Brain here in Chi. I feel so lucky to be in Chi these days. There is so much great music happening here.