You think the audience doesn't notice? Think again!

[buldog5151bass]

Hint to all - "A" is not going to convince "B" and vice versa. And neither side cares about the other side at this point, or is listening.

 

[mobdirt]

Hint to all - "A" is not going to convince "B" and vice versa. And neither side cares about the other side at this point, or is listening.

word, just another endless no u, in some ways

 

[Gorn]

Ummm, you are asserting "scientifically" that he's wrong. But, he has a (very) small sample, you have NO sample so his evidence is much more scientifically valid. Also, "scientifically" you cannot prove a negative, which is what you're trying to do.
But hey, science is best, right?

Not agreeing someone is correct ≠ asserting they're incorrect. So, no. No sir.

But yes, science is best.

 

[danosix]

"The lesson I learned is I need to change my strings more often"

You are talking about THE CHANGE in you setting since the first post, jimmy...
so is that the unimportant thing?

Respect the others who choose to use the setting they want instead of pleasing a guy in the audince,
is that hard?

You do need some vision or integrity, but keep in mind, it is the AUDIENCE you are there to please.
Imagine if the dude who built your car decided to respect his own intuition and wired your brakes "his way" instead of what his audience liked. Don't forget, playing in public is a job... please your boss/customer or go home.

 

[danosix]

Not agreeing someone is correct ≠ asserting they're incorrect. So, no. No sir.

But yes, science is best.

True, but using the word science to "prove" your disagreement sure smacks of it... Especially after 30 odd pages of thread.

 

[danosix]

Hint to all - "A" is not going to convince "B" and vice versa. And neither side cares about the other side at this point, or is listening.

Okay, but where does C stand on all of this?

 

[Gorn]

True, but using the word science to "prove" your disagreement sure smacks of it... Especially after 30 odd pages of thread.

I actually have no idea what you just said here.

 

[danosix]

I actually have no idea what you just said here.

You said disagreeing is not asserting the person is wrong, I said you sure make sound like it is.

 

[Gorn]

You said disagreeing is not asserting the person is wrong, I said you sure make sound like it is.

Yes. That's a common misconception.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

Yes. That's a common misconception.

I see what you did there. ;-)

 

[danosix]

Yes. That's a common misconception.

Actually, I can't believe I let that one pass - disagreeing means PRECISELY asserting the person is wrong!
Agree = "I believe you are right"
Disagree = "I believe you are NOT right" = "I believe you are wrong"
You are the one confusing a spirited debate and examining all sides with simple contradiction.

 

[Spidey2112]

But hey, science is best, right?

Sometimes, it can blind you...

 

[Gorn]

Actually, I can't believe I let that one pass - disagreeing means PRECISELY asserting the person is wrong!
Agree = "I believe you are right"
Disagree = "I believe you are NOT right" = "I believe you are wrong"
You are the one confusing a spirited debate and examining all sides with simple contradiction.

That's a excellent illustration of the common misconception.

A jar of gumballs has either an odd or even number of gumballs. If you say it's even and I don't agree, that doesn't mean I think there's an odd number.

So no, I don't believe you're right ≠ I believe you're wrong.

 

[buldog5151bass]

Okay, but where does C stand on all of this?

His head, I think...

 

[danosix]

That's a excellent illustration of the common misconception.

A jar of gumballs has either an odd or even number of gumballs. If you say it's even and I don't agree, that doesn't mean I think there's an odd number.

So no, I don't believe you're right ≠ I believe you're wrong.

You have now split the hair so many times you're cutting your own thumb.
I know you THINK you are not agreeing, but you are contradicting.
And right/wrong is a dichotomy, if you do not believe someone is right, you believe they are wrong.

 

[Gorn]

You have now split the hair so many times you're cutting your own thumb.
I know you THINK you are not agreeing, but you are contradicting.
And right/wrong is a dichotomy, if you do not believe someone is right, you believe they are wrong.

You're free to misappropriate the logical absolutes as you see fit.

 

[danosix]

You're free to misappropriate the rules of logical absolutes as you see fit.

As are you.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

That's a excellent illustration of the common misconception.

A jar of gumballs has either an odd or even number of gumballs. If you say it's even and I don't agree, that doesn't mean I think there's an odd number.

So no, I don't believe you're right ≠ I believe you're wrong.

In this example, with only two outcomes, “you’re not right” does equal “you’re wrong”.

 

[Gorn]

In this example, with only two outcomes, “you’re not right” does equal “you’re wrong”.

No it doesn't. There are two outcomes but three answers: yes, no, and I don't know.

 

[MultiScaleMale]

No it doesn't. There are two outcomes but three answers: yes, no, and I don't know.

But by selecting “you’re wrong”, you are eliminating “odd”. So only “even” remains. You didn’t say “I’m not sure if you’re right or wrong”.