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Your Thoughts On Digital Drums!

Will You Play With Digital Drums?

  • Yes

    Votes: 275 71.6%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 30 7.8%
  • If The Music Calls For It

    Votes: 49 12.8%
  • Partial Digital Kit is OK (add digital pads to acoustic set)

    Votes: 42 10.9%
  • Carrots

    Votes: 17 4.4%

  • Total voters
    384
Rehearsing in a small room, and Drums were WAY to loud!!! Keys player had money and bought a Roland high end set. Wow Studio at low volume is great. Now we can leave our plugs @ home and enjoy music. I know at
times it nice to crank it up, but you will loose your hearing? I don't miss that crash ringing in my ear. So many drummers don't control over tones on their kits, so the Roland takes care of that too. As a bass player I am a bit of a drum snob! Yep,, when that kick drum is not polishing your bass notes, you are not there yet!
 
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I was a skeptic until a few years ago. I got to play with a drummer who had a high end kit and great system to play through. More importantly, he loved playing them and learned all of the nuances to make the kit sound good. If your drummer doesn't like playing an e kit, he won't put that work in and it won't do well.

I’ve played both types, in practice and a few times in front of people. I tell people they are different instruments, with a similar user interface.
 
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A nice Roland kit gives a very convincing acoustic sound through speakers but the whole stage vibe is different.

Way back in 89 or 90 played with a guy that had a full (Simmons?) set of pads, real snare, real cymbals. Had stereo 15" monitors for stage. The sound was ok, especially on 80's songs that utilized that sound. The feel on stage though was completely different.

I can see why electronics are gaining popularity.
Weight and consistent sound are enough reasons.
 
O.K., as usual, my long-winded (but hopefully useful) observations. Here in Reno/Carson City/Tahoe/ Nor Cal area..as a working bassist, I get to play with drummers using 'Rubbermaids' as my great friend and bandmate Tina Fink calls them. All are in local Casinos. Almost EVERY drummer required to use them, hates them. Except one. He bought an Alesis kit, and uses them live as he would a standard drum set. All of the house kits are VERY expensive Roland kits, too- some with the allegedly better mesh heads.
Without exception, I do not care for certain aspects of every drummer's idea of their particular 'patch' they use when they configure the kit for the gig. The toms are always out of proportionally loud, and have a horrible huge blooming front end note, followed by a long decay that masks a lot of what low notes other instruments, in particular, the bass- produce. The kick drum sound with every drummer, is far too big, far too low in frequency, and masks the other parts of their own kit mix, to the point where I just have to have the drums down in my in-ear mix. Yeah, all the gigs with house kits are in-ear ones. Even my friend that uses the Alesis kit- has the drum mix in the band's monitors, along with his own Simmons amp. It's a bit too much sometimes. If we are playing without in-ears, and the kick is in the band's sub, it's awful for me. I call it "Subwoofer Mask" where the sub and it's long waves and standing waves in most places- mask many desirable frequencies. I have heard Rocco Prestia BURIED by subs, as well as the subs NEARLY drowning out the vocals when I saw Three Dog Night about ten years ago. I do not attend live music concerts. Except at Bartley Ranch here in Reno. All Klipsch horns, and NO subs. I saw Pat Metheny and Christian McBride there. Wonderful. Just like the old days before subs- it sounded incredible. Most drummers around here, are quite vocal about their disapproval of electronic drum kits. But they use them, as the alternative is to not work. Sometimes, a drummer will just bitch about them all night. It's all part of the gig.
I show up, with the right basses for the music, prepared as a result of doing my homework, with the right amp/ speakers/ or my always at the ready in-ear setup. Whatever the drums are, are fine, I deal with it- because, I want to work, too.
 
O.K., as usual, my long-winded (but hopefully useful) observations. Here in Reno/Carson City/Tahoe/ Nor Cal area..as a working bassist, I get to play with drummers using 'Rubbermaids' as my great friend and bandmate Tina Fink calls them. All are in local Casinos. Almost EVERY drummer required to use them, hates them. Except one. He bought an Alesis kit, and uses them live as he would a standard drum set. All of the house kits are VERY expensive Roland kits, too- some with the allegedly better mesh heads.
Without exception, I do not care for certain aspects of every drummer's idea of their particular 'patch' they use when they configure the kit for the gig. The toms are always out of proportionally loud, and have a horrible huge blooming front end note, followed by a long decay that masks a lot of what low notes other instruments, in particular, the bass- produce. The kick drum sound with every drummer, is far too big, far too low in frequency, and masks the other parts of their own kit mix, to the point where I just have to have the drums down in my in-ear mix. Yeah, all the gigs with house kits are in-ear ones. Even my friend that uses the Alesis kit- has the drum mix in the band's monitors, along with his own Simmons amp. It's a bit too much sometimes. If we are playing without in-ears, and the kick is in the band's sub, it's awful for me. I call it "Subwoofer Mask" where the sub and it's long waves and standing waves in most places- mask many desirable frequencies. I have heard Rocco Prestia BURIED by subs, as well as the subs NEARLY drowning out the vocals when I saw Three Dog Night about ten years ago. I do not attend live music concerts. Except at Bartley Ranch here in Reno. All Klipsch horns, and NO subs. I saw Pat Metheny and Christian McBride there. Wonderful. Just like the old days before subs- it sounded incredible. Most drummers around here, are quite vocal about their disapproval of electronic drum kits. But they use them, as the alternative is to not work. Sometimes, a drummer will just bitch about them all night. It's all part of the gig.
I show up, with the right basses for the music, prepared as a result of doing my homework, with the right amp/ speakers/ or my always at the ready in-ear setup. Whatever the drums are, are fine, I deal with it- because, I want to work, too.

You described the stage situation completely and eloquently- far better than my take above ":facepalm:
it's different"
 
O.K., as usual, my long-winded (but hopefully useful) observations. Here in Reno/Carson City/Tahoe/ Nor Cal area..as a working bassist, I get to play with drummers using 'Rubbermaids' as my great friend and bandmate Tina Fink calls them. All are in local Casinos. Almost EVERY drummer required to use them, hates them. Except one. He bought an Alesis kit, and uses them live as he would a standard drum set. All of the house kits are VERY expensive Roland kits, too- some with the allegedly better mesh heads.
Without exception, I do not care for certain aspects of every drummer's idea of their particular 'patch' they use when they configure the kit for the gig. The toms are always out of proportionally loud, and have a horrible huge blooming front end note, followed by a long decay that masks a lot of what low notes other instruments, in particular, the bass- produce. The kick drum sound with every drummer, is far too big, far too low in frequency, and masks the other parts of their own kit mix, to the point where I just have to have the drums down in my in-ear mix. Yeah, all the gigs with house kits are in-ear ones. Even my friend that uses the Alesis kit- has the drum mix in the band's monitors, along with his own Simmons amp. It's a bit too much sometimes. If we are playing without in-ears, and the kick is in the band's sub, it's awful for me. I call it "Subwoofer Mask" where the sub and it's long waves and standing waves in most places- mask many desirable frequencies. I have heard Rocco Prestia BURIED by subs, as well as the subs NEARLY drowning out the vocals when I saw Three Dog Night about ten years ago. I do not attend live music concerts. Except at Bartley Ranch here in Reno. All Klipsch horns, and NO subs. I saw Pat Metheny and Christian McBride there. Wonderful. Just like the old days before subs- it sounded incredible. Most drummers around here, are quite vocal about their disapproval of electronic drum kits. But they use them, as the alternative is to not work. Sometimes, a drummer will just bitch about them all night. It's all part of the gig.
I show up, with the right basses for the music, prepared as a result of doing my homework, with the right amp/ speakers/ or my always at the ready in-ear setup. Whatever the drums are, are fine, I deal with it- because, I want to work, too.
Ha, I was just in Tahoe last week, family house (West Shore by Emerald Bay). Makes sense about the casinos.
 
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Our new drummer loves his expensive Roland kit. Have played with it, and others in the past, but not feeling the love. He is open to playing acoustic or digital, so not a problem. However, thought my bandmates would be in the same camp as far as disliking the digital kit, but they seem to be indifferent at the moment.

We play about 4 songs that fit the digital kit (Bust A Move, Rappers Delight, etc...) but the rest of the tunes are more classic, or had acoustic drums as part of the original recordings.

Thoughts

First off, it’s a less concussive sound which can be unsettling at first. What I’ve found is a better EQ and a good monitor feed is essential, but then you’d have the same issue, percussion that is too loud ruining the overall mix.

As for what audience heard, IMO, if mixed properly, they sound great.
 
As a bassist, I love guys playing electronic kits. As a drummer, I am not a fan - the problem (and it is the only issue I have with them but a big one) is this; you can get an infinite number of sounds out of a real cymbal. The very best electronic kit I've played (the Roland, which is great) you can get maybe four. None of which sound right.

That being said, I'll be getting one in the next year or so. I don't think it's an optional tool in the drummer's toolkit anymore.

How about electronic drums with acoustic cymbals? Best of both worlds?
 
As a bass player, I appreciate playing with real drums.

As a hack drummer, I can definitely see the appeal of a 2 milk-crate load-in.

As a musician, I would say that a creative mix of acoustic and digital drums would be best for a cover band drummer.
 
Our new drummer loves his expensive Roland kit. Have played with it, and others in the past, but not feeling the love. He is open to playing acoustic or digital, so not a problem. However, thought my bandmates would be in the same camp as far as disliking the digital kit, but they seem to be indifferent at the moment.

We play about 4 songs that fit the digital kit (Bust A Move, Rappers Delight, etc...) but the rest of the tunes are more classic, or had acoustic drums as part of the original recordings.

Thoughts
If the digital kit triggers acoustic drum sounds as well as any other cool stuff the drummer wants, I'm down with it.
 
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