I don't know what zoom was thinking with this, the 708 I had was better. This sounds awful !
I should save and get a Boss gt 6 B !
I should save and get a Boss gt 6 B !
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Zoom Bx 1on
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I had the total opposite experience. The Eden sim is a gem. However you really have program it to really get the most out of it. I've had the MS-60B since it came out. It took a while to get the levels right, but once I did, (along with the right combo of sims and effects) I was impressed! With the BX1on the only difference was the form factor. Other than that there is a wealth of tones available if you take the time to find them...
dadgummit, it's a $69 multifx pedal. My only gripe is that the input stage doesn't like my hot pickups, so I have to back off my output to keep the front end clean. Otherwise, it's the same software engine that is in B3 and MS60B. Considering what you get for the money, I don't see how anyone could not find a use for this - as effects insert in an amp loop, a tuner, a headphone amp, an emergency backup modeler pedal...
I don't know if I'd use it as the cornerstone of my live rig, though, due to the plastic -ish housing and lack of comprehensive input/output interface connections. But...c'mon! $69!!!
I don't know if I'd use it as the cornerstone of my live rig, though, due to the plastic -ish housing and lack of comprehensive input/output interface connections. But...c'mon! $69!!!
I'll say this - I'm looking for a volume pedal and, out here, I can't get a decent one that's cheaper than a B1xon! Plus, it's got a little looper too - these two things as of themselves make it worth the price - not even talking of the effects here. The MS70CDR has some more than decent models, so, considering it's the same FX engine, I'm led to believe there must be at least a couple of useful ones in this as well.
Sadly, B1XON units have sold like such absolute hot cakes here that they've been out of stock for more than 6 weeks at each and every outlet
Sadly, B1XON units have sold like such absolute hot cakes here that they've been out of stock for more than 6 weeks at each and every outlet
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I'll say this - I'm looking for a volume pedal and, out here, I can't get a decent one that's cheaper than a B1xon! Plus, it's got a little looper too - these two things as of themselves make it worth the price - not even talking of the effects here. The MS70CDR has some more than decent models, so, considering it's the same FX engine, I'm led to believe there must be at least a couple of useful ones in this as well.
Sadly, they've sold like such absolute hot cakes here that they've been out of stock for more than 6 weeks at each and every outlet
This is a really good point - the cheapest volume pedals (Roland FV50H and Fender FVP1) I can find are £59 and the B1X-on is £59. As well as functioning as a volume pedal, the B1X-on allows you to assign the foot pedal to any one of about 400 of the 'standard' effect parameters on a patch-by-patch basis as well as having 5 dedicated pedal effects that you don't get with the B1-on. I guess the only downside from a purist perspective is that it is not analogue/true bypass. To me that means no scratchy pot noise, no treble attenuation and
All of the current Zoom units use the same DSP and many of the effect programmes are the same - I have an MS50-G and MS100-BT and both come with the same effects out of the box. Many of these are also available on the B1(X)-on units, although some are not - the real problem is working out which one contains the best balance of effects and features for your needs. The MS-70CDR is just that - no amp models or compressors, just Chorus, Delay and Reverb with a couple of EQ and pitch-shifters thrown in.
As the other posters have noted, in terms of sounds, these units do require some effort to get the most out of but the results can be truly fantastic. The wealth of editable parameters and the intuitive interface (yes, really!) makes the process itself fun, creative and mind-opening.
IMHO, Zoom have hit pay-dirt with this generation of processors and packages. The only fly in the ointment is the MS-60B which looks like a dead duck compared to the others - many of the more interesting/original effects are missing and it is crippled by the 4-effects-per-chain limit(!). Once you have found a comp/limit, drive/boost/EQ and amp for your basic tone there is not much room left for creative thought.
To the OP - DON'T GIVE UP.
I have the B1on and I don't regret about it. It's a 50$ multi but it does the job I have for it better than the Behringer Bass V-Amp I sold.
Multifx, drum machine, metronome, tuner, aux input. headphones amp... For home practice I don't need anymore.
Multifx, drum machine, metronome, tuner, aux input. headphones amp... For home practice I don't need anymore.
I also got the B1Xon. I also have the 60b, have had the 70CDR and I have enjoyed all of them very much. I think Zoom did a great job with the multi the last 3 to 4 years. Made a lot of leaps and IMO, they sound great for what they are and what yuo pay for them. Are they studio ready, probably not. But for live use, how can you beat most of whats in them? I dont think you really can. Especially if youre goal is to just use it at home for practice.
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Wow! Your ears are on another planet compared to mine then!
I have an old 708II here as well as my trusty B3 and MS60-B.
There is no comparison between the old and new. The newer ones are streets ahead IMO.
The 708II hasn't been plugged in in over 2 years for that reason. I'm about to give it to my drummer mate (who tinkers on guitar sometimes) to play around with. I don't want it!
Wow! Your ears are on another planet compared to mine then!
I have an old 708II here as well as my trusty B3 and MS60-B.
There is no comparison between the old and new. The newer ones are streets ahead IMO.
The 708II hasn't been plugged in in over 2 years for that reason. I'm about to give it to my drummer mate (who tinkers on guitar sometimes) to play around with. I don't want it!
I have to disagree. The MS-60B in conjunction with an MS70-CDR worked much better for me than the B1on.
That's fine, but the OP has a B1X-on, so I was trying to offer some encouragement. I think the form factor of the MS series is great and, like you, I have two - in my case the MS-50G and MS-100BT. The 'fly in the ointment' was a reference to the 4-effect limit of the 60B and lack (to date) of firmware updates/effect additions, compared to the 50 and 100 which offer 6 effects per chain and 100 models out of the box.
the b1on is a fun little toy. If it had any sort of a true bypass I might actually use it for something other than practicing.
Fair enough. Though I have also had the MS-100BT and found it often over exceeded it's theoretical limit. Same with the B1on. Still, the processing power increase we are getting every few years is amazing.
Likewise - a couple of the Amp models and some of the high quality reverbs really hammer the DSP, leading to the 'DSP Full' message when combined in a patch, but on balance (IMHO) all of the current zoom units are streets ahead of the competition. What I like about their approach is that the entire range at all price points has the same DSP and effects and the only thing that changes is the form factor
been using zoom pedals since the 506- i think this B1on is a great culmination of their development and of their listening to players' input. it's got some beautiful (i'm tempted to use "mature"), rich & subtle chorus, verb & exciter stuff, a nice reverse patch, some step & ringmod trippy stuff along with synths and the usual overdrive & wah patches, plus nicely accurate amp mods, 30-sec looper AND decent drums, with headphone amp ability... and the sounds are all quite good, definitely not cheesy & "not quite there" like the 506 (somebody at a gig called the 506 "the tony stark's first grey suit of Zoom pedals"). but the patches certainly benefit from tweaking (in both active & passive and with various pickup combos) to find the sweet spots. i've got my top 25 or so finally dialed in and placed in groups, and i almost never go out without it.
I got a B1on as a gift from my mother in law, and I really like it for headphone practice. I favor the Aguilar and Ampeg amp models, but they all sound decent.
My only "gripe" with the amp models is they all have sweepable mids. It's useful, but less like the original amp in most cases. Making the functionality more like the original seems more interesting IMO. They did it on the Avalon U5 model (good cop of an actual U5!), so why not with the SVT?
What I'd love to do is get more into the heavy distortions/fuzzes and other effects with my live rig. I have my standard tone (TH500 & B3K), but having some options on heavier tones and the occasional modulation or filter or reverb would be nice to have on tap.
My only "gripe" with the amp models is they all have sweepable mids. It's useful, but less like the original amp in most cases. Making the functionality more like the original seems more interesting IMO. They did it on the Avalon U5 model (good cop of an actual U5!), so why not with the SVT?
What I'd love to do is get more into the heavy distortions/fuzzes and other effects with my live rig. I have my standard tone (TH500 & B3K), but having some options on heavier tones and the occasional modulation or filter or reverb would be nice to have on tap.
