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For trade MTD 634 Walnut, Wenge Neck/Board, OEM Bart PUPS/PRE

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Boy howdy if this bass could talk.

I'm the original owner of this bass.
Ordered it through Glen Kawamoto at Austin Bass Traders.
Kind of a dream bass of mine that was an attempt to get at a few odd-ball basses I loved for one Franken-Six:

  • Warwick'y Tone because of the Walnut/Wenge Combo (pretty close)
  • Wide Spacing which I came to prefer over anything else (18mm in this case)
  • The snap/full-bodied beef of a j-bass-esque, soapbar-equipped bass
For that last part I ended up taking out the Bart Setup, which I've never really liked all that much (more on that later) and put in an Aguilar 3-band EQ with the Barts.

Better but not quite there.

So I sold it.

SOLD - BRAND NEW MTD 634 w/Aguilar Pre and VTC Wenge/Walnut NO TOP


The next owner put in the bart setup, chastised 'the original owner' me in a (I thought) condescending way, and then after seeing it bounce around, I got kinda heated and bought it back.

My next project: Roger Sadowsky's fantastic pre, with VTC, and some Aguilar Big Single Pickups. Note to any potential buyers: the cavity was routed out slightly to accommodate the Barts. Clean work and see pics.

Tonally results? Best J6'ish tone I've had, and the huge but was mainly that it was a 6-string.

So I sold it, and the new owners put back in the Bart pre ... sound familiar?

SOLD - MTD 634 Walnut (no top) Wenge Neck Sadowsky Pre Aguilar Single Coils

Now, I still maintain that the Sadowsky pre/Aggie pups in one of Mike's basses is a really cool sound, and if it was a 5-string, I would've just had a 'forever' bass.

But, as GAS sometimes goes, I saw this beautiful, chocolatey walnut beauty up for sale on Ebay, exactly as Mike Tobias would've prescribed as the bass Shaman he is, and just couldn't resist. Good day job at the time, and a balance in my PayPal account.

Here's where I eat crow ...

I went with a Cuban-Thai fusion as to spices. Very hot peppers, Cumin, Garlic Salt, to name a few things. I don't know how much it helped but I kept it down at least


This bass, with the bart pre/pups, which I never really gave a chance to, sound best for this bass. The bass 'as is', as of May 3rd, 2021, has the original Bart Pre custom-designed for Mike Tobias's MTD line, as well as the pickups.

I'm really glad I had a chance to experiment like that, but now that I have the original pre/pups, I can see that while I still don't have the instrument I want (mainly because of the 6 thing but because tonally I do prefer my Sadowsky PJ5 and Olinto P5 every single time) what I have is much more suited to Mike's original concept.

  • Mid Switch all the way down (250hz) with miss boosted slightly, and then bass/treble boosted: fantastic finger-style tone you could use all night. More MIDS on the bridge pickup and back off the treble and you've got 'that Jaco sound' ... More MIDS on the neck and it's a good P-Bass approximation. Down the center and with the ability of that treble knob to hit the stratosphere in a way that the Sadowsky pre can not, and you have a vicious slap tone
  • Mid Switch all the way up (1Khz) with a cut, and bass/treble boosted a bunch ... and man that's not really my go to sound, but Holy (pun intended) Schlamol-ee that is a fantastic urban gospel sound. More dry snap because of the wood combo than I'm used to in the lows/highs, but the Low-mid-rich thing this bass just has built-in gives it a tremendous clarity

I've got the OHSC, the paperwork, and while the bass itself weighs about 11lbs (10.6 or so) the case feels like it weighs as much as a 70's muscle car. Including the short Italia strap and the Schaller strap-locks (not original mind you) that came with it, and this strap is only for you 'play the bass up by my neck tie' folks. If you're like me and like it slung low (or even in between) let me know and I'll include a brown leather strap that is more middle of the road.

Not looking for any trades, and not looking to ship to Europe. PayPal preferred and I'll be shipping FedEx. Shipping included unless you live in the far reaches of the US or in Canada, and then we'll work something out.

Thanks for reading if you got through all that!


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ElMon

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Tonal note:

The Sadowsky basses I own, and increasingly I'll include the flats-strung Olinto P5 I've been using more and more, sit in the mix in a very unique way that has to be heard/felt. Thick-all-over with a bloom to each note. For folks evaluating gear/reading players comments about tone, that is my 'sound in my head' template. Going for guys like Jamerson/Willie Weeks/Chuck Rainey, but with a killer B-string.

My mods for this bass was an attempt to get that MTD closer to that ideal (for me) sound. What you have here, with it's original EQ setup, is more of the quintessential 'modern bass tone'.

If I was exclusively doing Urban Gospel, Neo-Soul, or Modern R&B, it might be a keeper despite the 6-string thing.
 

ElMon

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I’ve seen (I think) the ‘classic’ bart setup having a VTC/tone control option. If that’s the case I might put a 534 version of this bass on my GAS list. That VTC on my Sadowsky basses was a game changer for me.
 

ElMon

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I have a VTC on my 534 fretless. :woot:

I will have GAS for this option of Bart setup+VTC. I have to think that having that option (so much different/better than cutting treble) along with the surgical midrange flexibility is something to behold

Beautiful piece of walnut!

My Uncle (RIP) made cherry wood Shaker boxes for a living, and Mike’s stuff reminds me of him.

One thing that IME is undeniable, and again I’m a YUGE Sadowsky fanboy: the MTD’s I’ve owned have a playability/set of ergonomics that is second to none.
 

kerrycares

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You mention the cavities have been routed out to accommodate the Bart’s?
Do you mean the Aguilar?
 

ElMon

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You mention the cavities have been routed out to accommodate the Bart’s?
Do you mean the Aguilar?

Sorry, yes I meant the Aguilars and that you can tell now that the Barts are in there.

local friend of mine did the work initially and I think he did a really fantastic job.
 

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Started a new job, in a very 'peculiar to Oklahoma and other states with certain laws pertaining to certain mind-altering plants/medicine' industry, and if things work out like they're talking I'd be more than glad to close this listing before it sells. Really unique surgical-punch in the low-miss on this bass. Some stuff just calls for that tone, even though (much to my chagrin sometimes) the people I'm playing with just want to hear my all-passive, basically period-correct Olinto P5 more than my awesome Sadowsky(s) in every single case.

The 'sound in their head' when it comes to bass still seems to be 'passive 60's P-bass with flats' sound.
Contrarian I am, I wanna hunt down an 80's Kubicki with rounds, through a Hartke 2x410 righ with a GK800RB sitting on top. Sweatbands on my wrist, ankles and head 'for safety'.

I won't though. Doctor says I'm getting better.
 

ElMon

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I might be open to some trade plus cash provided I can at least get two grand in cash.

I don’t really need anything… But when has that stopped any of us LOL. I might take a particular look at Japanese metro Sadowsky J5 basses and/or the modern or PJ five options
 

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Still open for a Sadowsky Metro (no Pau Ferro, no 4's) trade plus cash my way, otherwise I'm leaving this open for straight up CASH.

I keep A/B'ing this bass with my Sadowsky PJ5 ... and I finally figured out what the 'thing' is that has me dumping this bass like I keep doing:

The MTD has more subterranean lows and more crystalline highs, but doesn't have this 'thick all over' sound that my Sadowsky has in spades. 'Big Daddy P' is my true GAS-Killer.
 

ElMon

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And now the pendulum doth swing the other way.

Gonna put some flats on this thing and see what she do.
 

kerrycares

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I feel your pain with 6 string basses because I enjoy them yet none of the music i play has a sonic need for them.
I have resigned myself to the fact that it is a specialty piece that I only enjoy in the privacy of my own home.
My workhorse basses are my Sadowsky UV70 5 and my upright bass.
The Sadowsky because my electric playing right now is 100% in ear systems with no amp.
If it’s live with an amp , my Master Built Fender Jazz 5 gets the nod.
I hope you keep your bass because a 34” scale MTD 6 is pretty rare.
Otherwise GLWTS
 

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Much obliged!


Yeah, the funny thing is, I was going through all of my basses for an upcoming Neo soul/R&B type thing, and sonically this bass will probably be exactly what that gig needs. So may be good timing on my part.


The only thing to consider now is can I get comfortable enough on a six but I don’t fumble all over the place live.

I had a Ken Smith six that I spent a lot of time on but I’ve been playing fives exclusively for the last 10 years or so.
good problems to have. If I had that UV 70 I would never let one go again. I’ve had a few and I still don’t know why I sold them.

Oh yeah… GAS
 

kerrycares

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I’m hot rodding a Yamaha John Patitucci JP1 right now and I’ll post it up in a few weeks.
34” scale and hopefully an end to 6 string gas.
 

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