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SCRAP LUMBER BASS vs. ALDER BASS - Can You Tell The Difference??

WHICH IS WHICH?

  • Clips X and Y are LUMBER, Clip Z is ALDER

    Votes: 40 13.9%
  • Clips X and Y are ALDER, Clip Z is LUMBER

    Votes: 37 12.8%
  • Clip X is ALDER, Clips Y and Z are LUMBER

    Votes: 66 22.9%
  • I can't hear any difference!

    Votes: 145 50.3%

  • Total voters
    288
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UPDATE: The correct answer is revealed here.


Ok gang, you ready to get crazy? :bassist:

Let me introduce you to my latest audio test subjects. In one corner, we have a 60's style Jazz bass with an Alder body from Warmoth. In the other corner, behold...THE SCRAP LUMBER BASS!

alderj.jpg
lumberj.jpg


That's right. A bass body made from old, beatup, dusty scrap lumber from my basement. The wood came from Home Depot. About $10 for 8 feet of it. Obviously high grade stuff! :D

I actually got this idea from TB member "Lackey" in the "Wood Matters Club" thread. He challenged me to build a bass from balsa wood for my next project. Well, I didn't have any balsa, but I did have this stuff. And I was bored tonight. So I figured, why not see if people can hear the difference??

For the audio recordings, I kept everything the same except for the body and bridge. Each bass has the same strings, pickups, and neck. I took precise measurements of the Alder bass to make sure all components were positioned in the same location on the Lumber bass.

Now, for these audio tests, I decided to simulate a real-world scenario. I recorded each bass in a mix, with drums and 2 guitar tracks. No vocals. So I'm being very conservative with the complexity of the mix. Also, I cranked the bass track higher than any proper audio engineer would.

I recorded three tracks. I used one of the basses twice. It's your job to identify which is which! Vote for your pick, and feel free to post a reply with your comments.

HERE ARE THE CLIPS:

Clip X
Clip Y
Clip Z


And please, you "tonewood" folks, don't try to make this a flame war. This is all in good fun. If we all approach this with an open mind we might learn something. :)

(Just in case somebody tries to accuse me of lying about the answers, I've already emailed one of the Moderators with the correct ones.)

EDIT: Some of the tonewood folks have complained about the bass being "boomy" on the clips. This is because I kept the bass track totally raw, without any studio typical EQ adjustments to cut the lowest frequencies. (Ironically, I did this to appease the tonewood folks who complained about my use of compression on a prior test.)

So, I have revised the clips with a more typical studio EQ applied to the bass track. The "boominess" should be gone.

Below is a screen capture of the current poll results. Let's see if things change any going forward...
 

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x and z sound similar to me...i'll venture that y is the scrap wood

what is notable is that both sound perfectly good making music...the prototype that became the les paul was a similar chunk of wood with pickups, from what i recall

haha--just looked at your poll, and apparently, x doesn't equal z, so that shows that with built in speakers at 'kids sleeping in next room' volume they sound the same to me!
 
Z is the only one that sounded different to me. not bad though. smooth playing.

i feel like under different circumstances, the difference would be more obvious.

Different circumstances... do you mean like with a couple of vocalists, a keyboard player, a noisy audience, and a mediocre soundman? Or do you mean just the bass by itself, playing a solo, listening on headphones?
 
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