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My truss rod is broken on my beautiful custom bass!

My favorite bass, the one I always play (up until now) has had a major catastrophe. :crying:

Maybe it was my fault (I tried to adjust it, but didn't hear it snap, then it just started spinning)--but the truss rod on my precious Linc Luthier Impression 5-string bass is spinning 360 degrees and there is nothing happening to the relief on the neck...

My local luthier has examined it and agreed that it is messed up and needs a major repair. :bawl:

I spoke to Linc and he is totally baffled and said this has never happened before. He even picked the best truss rod he had for my bass. :confused:

From day one the truss rod has never really been ideal. Linc basses have a very strong neck design and the truss rod is designed only for minor adjustments. Mine had a reverse thread, which was counterintuitive for me. Even though this is the case, the rod should allow for some adjusting--don't you all agree? :eyebrow:

THANK GOD I BOUGHT INSURANCE FOR THE BASS! ;) I bought a policy from Music Pro Insurance (www.musicproinsurance.com) and covered the bass for $5000. I never expected to use it, but it looks like it will save the day. I filed the claim immediately. My local repair shop--Landau Guitar Company, myself, and Linc have all written letters to my insurance adjuster. Minus a $100 deductible, it looks like I might be lucky and get the replacement cost on my instrument, but I'll have to keep my fingers crossed...:(

The question remains: What do I do? Should I have Landau repair it? It's a serious task. They have to take off this gorgeous fingerboard and all this custom inlay work:
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They'd basically have to grind it off. :eek: Then, a new truss rod system will need to be implemented and a new fingerboard will all new inlays will need to be made and fitted to the instrument. :rollno: My guys are great--they do incredible repairs and it can be done, but it will be very expensive.

If I get compensated for replacement by my insurance company I could possibly buy a new bass or have it repaired. I don't know what to do. :confused: This was my favorite bass, and it was totally custom. I have two other Lincs, but this one is by far the best one. The truss rods are one of the weakest aspects of the design, but the studiness of the neck does make up for some of that. I could have Linc build another one, but then I might have similar truss rod issues. Landau Guitar Company would gurantee an improved system, but in doing so the bass would go through massive surgery. :crying: What should I do? :confused: Buy a new bass? Have this one fixed? Here's what we're talking about:
Special patented bracing
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Custom Inlay and Villex Pickups
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Beautiful Cocobolo Top
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Gorgeous Crotch Walnut Center Piece
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Five Piece Flame Maple and Wenge Neck and a Gorgeous Back
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Flamed California Walnut Sides
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and a Custom Electronics Package with Villex Pickups and RMC piezos in a Hipshot Bridge
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PLEASE HELP ME WITH WHAT I SHOULD DO!!! WHAT WOULD YOU DO?
 
The fretboard will need to be removed, and possibly replaced, the truss channel will need to be routed out, and the original rod removed and replaced. Then the channel'll need to be refilled. After that, it'll be a manner of placing the fretboard, original or replacement, back in the EXACT perfect position...
Tricky, but can be done. It's about the biggest repair that can be done to a guitar, though.

It's either that, or he carves out the neck, builds a totally new one, and sets it in. That'd be a bit simpler in some ways, but it'd play like a whole different (Linc) bass.

Either way, I'm really really sorry. Metal can surprise you sometimes. And when it does go, it's often flat out catastrophic.
 
+2.

I would talk to Linc about repairing it. He should, being the one who built it, be able to repair it better than anyone else, and if it needs a new fretboard, I would think he would be the best one to fit a new one on there. IMHO, of course.

Yes and it would still be a 110% all original Link Luthier Bass.
 
To the guy who asked about active EQ:

You can get that if you want, but the control cavity is TIGHT. It's hard to fit much in the way of electronics in there. On the Impression models, the body is thicker so you can get more stuff in, but the bracing gets in the way. This bass has Villex custom pickups with his mid control, and RMCs with the RMC buffer pre. The pre has a master tone that affects the entire setup, which is on the concentric pot I had custom made by Klaus Noll. The other knobs are master volume, a blend for the mags, and a blend for the mags to the piezos.

To the guy who asked about his site:

I think Linc has let that go by the wayside for the time being. He has a job at a college and he doesn't build full time anymore, but still builds on the weekends--so his output is I guess around 10-20 really fine guitars and basses a year. If you are sincerely interested in his instruments contact me and I'll give you his info.

The general consensus seems to be fix it, so that is what I'll try to do, depending on my repairman's advice. I guess I could have Linc do some repairs, but Craig Landau can do wonderful work and it's local. Not to mention that he does better fretwork than anyone else including Linc (but I still love Linc--he's a great guy and a awesome luthier). The biggest issue with the design is the truss rod, and I have a feeling that Craig would implement an improved system. But cost might be a factor, and I'm sure Linc would take care of his baby cheaper than my local guru. So, I'll take that into consideration when I hear back from the insurance company.

The insurance company is Music Pro Insurance. I highly recommend them--especially if you have really nice gear. The policies are cheap, and prior to this incident I wasn't very impressed with their customer service. However, after this went down they've been on their game and very nice to deal with. I have a feeling it's going to work out--PLEASE DEAR GOD LET IT WORK OUT OKAY! I'll keep you all posted on what happens with insurance and blah blah blah...
 
okay, I'm not a bass builder but I've done many and have been around many more, complicated repairs. I'm not really sure how this neck is built based on the pictures but, I'm not clear as to what this talk is about "grinding" the fingerboard off and "carving" out the neck.

Shouldn't these be a matter of "heating" to remove these. The fingerboard at least. The neck too, if it is indeed a set neck and not neck-through.
 
Linc said it would need to be grinded off--but Craig has not seconded his opinion. The laminates are horizontal, so that may be a consideration.

Take a closer look at the pic of the inlays I posted. There are "slices" of abalone that are on the side in places of the normal dots. These go through both the ebony fingerboard and part of the top wenge laminate. That would make the job extra difficult, not to mention that the finish would need to be stripped....
 
Linc said it would need to be grinded off--but Craig has not seconded his opinion. The laminates are horizontal, so that may be a consideration.

Take a closer look at the pic of the inlays I posted. There are "slices" of abalone that are on the side in places of the normal dots. These go through both the ebony fingerboard and part of the top wenge laminate. That would make the job extra difficult, not to mention that the finish would need to be stripped....

well, I can't see it in the pic but there sure is a lot going on there so, I'll have to take your word for it.
 
Ah, gotcha. There's a guy in town who has a few and is probably one of the best in town.

I had the opportunity to play one several years back. It was a purpleheart 4. The store didn't seem to have a functioning air conditioner, humidifier, etc. The action was decent, but I'm sure the store conditions weren't helping. Despite being chambered, it was sorta heavy. The sound was pretty bright and didn't seem to have much bottom end. The controls featured a volume and blend....which is why I'm a shade hesitant to order something with wild wood configurations and no way to adjust it. I also like to boost when I solo, then again, I have done fine with Rob Allen basses......
 
okay, I'm not a bass builder but I've done many and have been around many more, complicated repairs. I'm not really sure how this neck is built based on the pictures but, I'm not clear as to what this talk is about "grinding" the fingerboard off and "carving" out the neck.

Shouldn't these be a matter of "heating" to remove these. The fingerboard at least. The neck too, if it is indeed a set neck and not neck-through.

DaveAceofBass said:
Linc said it would need to be grinded off--but Craig has not seconded his opinion. The laminates are horizontal, so that may be a consideration.

The normal way would be to heat or steam the fretboard away. The problem here is that the neck is a multi-laminate one and it's a big possibility you'll weaken the glue joint in the laminates when you steam off the fb.
The grinding thing is simply the fact that the fretboard will have to have it's fret removed and then be shaved away. In this case it's the easiest thing to do.