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Props for Ampeg B2RE & 810 - Country Band

This weekend I was able to catch a local Country Band that was playing down the street from where my oldies group was booked. We hopped down there on break, and then came back when we were done with our gig and caught the end of their show. Although they billed themselves as "Top 40 Country", they also threw in a handful of 80's rock dance numbers and a couple of classic rock tunes. They used a minimul PA, and the bass wasn't even in the PA mix.

I've known the bass player for a while, but I had never got a chance to check out his band or his rig. His gear wasn't what you would normally expect to see for a Country band - he was using a BC Rich Warlock with (2) P-pickups through a solid state Ampeg B2RE (China) and an early 90's SLM 810 cab. Surprisingly, the bass sound was loud, big, rich, warm, fat and deep, and was the perfect tone for Country. I was amazed at how good his tone was, coming from the B2RE which doesn't get a lot of love on TB, and also because he was using an 810 - which in my prior experience - doesn't throw a lot of low end. I talked to him about his rig, and he showed me his settings (straight out of the Ampeg manual). The only thing out of the ordinary was that the cab didn't have a "D" (domestic) code in the serial number - but rather an "E" (export?). He was surprised I liked his tone, and was glad to hear that another bassist dug his style.

I figured I'd post this because after hearing his rig, it really made me reconsider my perceptions of the B2RE and the 810 cab. It was one of the best tones I've heard in a long time - from two pieces of gear that I normally wouldn't consider for myself. Maybe it was the room, maybe it was his fingers, who knows - but props to whatever mojo he had working for him!
 
His rotary EQ was straight out of the B2RE manual:

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And his Graphic was set like this:
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Thanks stiles,

I know the smiley face doesn't get a lot of love in a band mix context either...where was the 'venue' ?

One other thought might be that 'perhaps' the ampeg recommended setting is based on compensating for that particular amp's voicing. Since that bass knob is full-on, that is... .

In fact, the more I think about that's probably why, because the Country settings for the CL, Pro 2 & 3 don't have the smiley face recomended EQ setting...I'll have to double check.

Jimbob
 
It was just at a local bar - the area where the band plays is a long and narrow room, elevated stage about 18" or so, most of the floor was tile, brick walls. Average height ceiling.

I was just surprised at all of his gear choices because I wouldn't have pegged any of them for Country, but sonically it worked. I've played through a B2RE and the SVT-350 in the past with an 810, and I couldn't get it to sound anywhere near like he did- so maybe it was the Warlock itself.
 
I have a B2R and and 1540 and I need a plethora of pedals to get a good tone out of that thing. Sounds so stale and lifeless. I'd prolly go farther assuming the bass had alot to do with his tone.


No offense intended, but IME the 1540 sucks even harder than the B2R and B2RE - I know someone that had that exact combination, and it was horrible...



- georgestrings
 
No offense intended, but IME the 1540 sucks even harder than the B2R and B2RE - I know someone that had that exact combination, and it was horrible...



- georgestrings

ouch, my buddy had a 1540 and a 4pro that sounded amazing, so when a 1540 came on CL for $300 I grabbed it. I found pluggin up those ports made a huge difference. When I get my 4pro, I may end up looking for an 810.
 
A Warlock with P pickups... OK well that will make that sound good. If he stuck some flats on that, it probably made for a nice bass.

The head, if it wasn't cranked up... and it's hard to beat the 810... I don't know why you guys are so down on the rig. I personally wouldn't own the head myself, but the rest of the combination sounds fine.

My guess is he had that audiophile power cord on the rig... BOB
 
A Warlock with P pickups... OK well that will make that sound good. If he stuck some flats on that, it probably made for a nice bass.

The head, if it wasn't cranked up... and it's hard to beat the 810... I don't know why you guys are so down on the rig. I personally wouldn't own the head myself, but the rest of the combination sounds fine.

My guess is he had that audiophile power cord on the rig... BOB

I had the same rig and I know the B2RE runs out of headroom if you look at it wrong. The tone is just horrible and a Crate bass combo sounds way better. The 810e still sounds like an 810e, but I second the motion he used an audiophile power cord and delivered the true power from the head. That normal power cable really limits the potential for the B2RE.....:hiding::D
 
For the vast majority of my jobs I use a 350h and a 410he.
The volume on the amp is never past the 9:30 position.
I do not use the EQ. I own both a old SVT and a B-15 so I know what killer tone is. My 350h is more than useable.
Plenty of tone and volume. Use one yourself THEN poo poo it.
I think it won't be as easy.
 
Lot of assumptions here based on gear snobbery. The guy sounded good on that rig, set that way, in that room, playing that music, period. He put himself in a spot in the mix that made the whole thing work. That's the difference between being a bass player and a musician. I'd be interested in hearing it. A lot of what folks call "country" nowdays is far from being country. (I suspect having a P pickup helped things as well no matter what the body of the instrument looked like).:)