Anybody remember what years, these amps were first introduced?
I'm trying to find out if the 400 came out before the D-180 or not.
I'm trying to find out if the 400 came out before the D-180 or not.
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Mesa D-180/400/400+. First year of each model?
- Thread starter anderbass
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My Mesa service manual lists the following information:
D-180 - produced 7/82 to 12/85
400 - produced '85 to '89
400+ - produced '89 - present
D-180 - produced 7/82 to 12/85
400 - produced '85 to '89
400+ - produced '89 - present
The owners manual for the bass 400+ mentions that channel 2 is based off of the d-180 also. http://www.mesaboogie.com/manuals/Bass 400 Plus.pdf
My d-180 has a 82' date on it, my 400+ had 89'.
My m-190 power amp has a date of 86' written in it. Have only heard of a couple other ones of those though.
My d-180 has a 82' date on it, my 400+ had 89'.
My m-190 power amp has a date of 86' written in it. Have only heard of a couple other ones of those though.
timv said:
That M-190 seems to be very rare indeed, do you have any further more info on this model?
It is mentioned in one of mesa product catalogs, heres the writing:
Our legendary mono blocks, the M-180 and M-190 (and later, the
classic Strategy® 400 Stereo) created the benchmark against which all other contenders are judged today. The longevity of these powerplants is proven by their continued daily use a decade later in LA's heaviest rigs. Over the years we've built on this legacy, benefiting today's guitarists from over two decades of tone and refinements. From the four cylinder 20/20 to the big-bore of the Recto 2:100®, our menu of stereo all-tube power amps remains unrivaled.
If you do a google search it only comes up with 4 pages of matches and most of the matches are the same ones. One message board someone wrote that they spoke to a tech at mesa who said only about 100 of them were made.
Our legendary mono blocks, the M-180 and M-190 (and later, the
classic Strategy® 400 Stereo) created the benchmark against which all other contenders are judged today. The longevity of these powerplants is proven by their continued daily use a decade later in LA's heaviest rigs. Over the years we've built on this legacy, benefiting today's guitarists from over two decades of tone and refinements. From the four cylinder 20/20 to the big-bore of the Recto 2:100®, our menu of stereo all-tube power amps remains unrivaled.
If you do a google search it only comes up with 4 pages of matches and most of the matches are the same ones. One message board someone wrote that they spoke to a tech at mesa who said only about 100 of them were made.
There is a m-180 power amp on ebay right now which I have never seen either:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mesa-Boogie-M-1...ryZ43374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/Mesa-Boogie-M-1...ryZ43374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Aww man... I was watching that too. Now the price is going to spike out of my reach. Guess I don't need to be home when it ends after all.
Looks nice. I wonder if there is any internal difference between the M-180 and your M-190?timv said:
Does your M-190 have two preamp tubes?
Do these power-amps have a (back panel) volume knob?
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For the M-180:
April 82 to Jan. 86 (275 made)
No dates for the M-190, but the manual describes it as the "full-featured, luxury version of the M-180." It adds balanced inputs, volume controls and pads for the unbalanced and balanced inputs respectively, 5-way binding post outputs, and three-LED power level indicator. The description also mentions that its designed for low distortion applications. The manual covers the D-180, M-180, and M-190 as the rack mount series from that era.
I believe the M-180 is the same as a Bass 400 from the effects return back. I've been watching the one on ebay as well. However, the Bass 400 (not +) usually sells for about the same as an M-180, so you get the preamp and eq for free!
April 82 to Jan. 86 (275 made)
No dates for the M-190, but the manual describes it as the "full-featured, luxury version of the M-180." It adds balanced inputs, volume controls and pads for the unbalanced and balanced inputs respectively, 5-way binding post outputs, and three-LED power level indicator. The description also mentions that its designed for low distortion applications. The manual covers the D-180, M-180, and M-190 as the rack mount series from that era.
I believe the M-180 is the same as a Bass 400 from the effects return back. I've been watching the one on ebay as well. However, the Bass 400 (not +) usually sells for about the same as an M-180, so you get the preamp and eq for free!
anderbass said:Now I bet you wish, you would never have founded Talk Bass after all....
I didn't found talkbass. I do sometimes regret inventing the internet though.
mthoople said:
Would it be possible to have a scanned copy of the manual? I snagged an M-180 a while back and it would be nice to have some literature related to it. If you're willing to share the manual, PM me and I'll give you my email address.
(Edit: This M-180 was dirt cheap...)
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Hi there,
I am looking for a m-190 manual (elctronic or anything else)
could you produce a copy for me if you still have it??
cheers
I am looking for a m-190 manual (elctronic or anything else)
could you produce a copy for me if you still have it??
cheers
My recently accuiered M-190 is stamped 1982. Not much info on this one, but I think I read somewhere that there were less than 100 made.
Is that the same as a MESA/BARON M-190, or is that another model still? It looks like an M-180, but has knobs and such on the front, plus the MESA/BARON logo. I saw one awhile ago, and almost bought it just because I've never heard of it, but good sense won out. 5 bass amps is enough, I don't need to start messing with power amps too.
