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Brice sixers revisited: a lengthy review

Hi everyone!

Couple of months ago I picked up a Brice sixer (HB406) as my backup bass. I intended to use it primarily for the outside gigs when the heat index is over 100 and humidity is around 90% (yeah welcome to South Carolina :) ) or any other place where I would not feel comfortable bringing any expensive gear with me. Since I've had it for a little while now, I thought I'd write a review on it. As you can not play it before buying it, it is helpful to know as many details as possible.

Most TB'ers who have reviewed this bass always agreed that "for the money" they are pretty good. Well, I'd like to take out "for the money" part and just look at this bass from the player's perspective: how it performs on daily basis and what to expect from it live or in a more controlled environment.

When I initially got this bass I was quite surprised, as the workmanship was pretty good - no rough edges on the frets, smooth neck, decent hardware. The neck is very comfortable - the profile is quite slim front to back - and fast if you are accustomed to narrow string spacing (16mm). It is not heavy and can easily be used for extended sets without breaking your back. After closer inspection though you can definitely tell that corners were cut to keep the price down: the neck pocket is not too tight - you can slip in a business card between the sides of the neck and the body. The body itself is not too ergonomic: it is not rounded much and feels a bit slab-like. It does not interfere much when playing, but it definitely is not as comfortable as many other basses.

Out of the box it requires a thorough setup. The nut was way too high and needed to be filed extensively . It is as if it was pre-slotted, but not fully finished. There were couple of high frets - not too high, but once you lower the action, you can spot them. I was very happy to find out that there were no dead spots on this bass. On the other hand, the neck needed to be shimmed in order to achieve even moderately low action. It is acceptable if you use tapered strings and like medium action, but if you like standard strings with low action, shimming may be necessary. In other words, you can hardly call it gig-ready on arrival. After some work though, it can be set up to play comfortably and you do not have to fight it when playing live.

The B string though is exceptionally week. Given that it is 35' and has dual truss-rods it borders on unacceptable. There are standard cures - heavier gauge strings, etc - I am still in the process of figuring out what works best for it. But if you expect a good B string out of the box, you'll send it back right away. It has overall a little bit peculiar attitude towards stings. It can be strung through the body, which means it needs extra long strings. DR Longnecks (tapered) fits it perfectly, but most other strings would have to be strung through the bridge. It seems the design team threw all features that look good on paper, but no one took the time to balance it out and actually test it.

It sounds OK. Not good, but not too bad either. Generic would be appropriate term I guess. I works great for a smoky bar, but it is does not have much character or growl. It is on the darker, warmer side. If you have a decent amp which can color it enough, it can work. But it definitely needs some help in this department. Pre-amp is noisy and does not do too much. Bass boost adds a lot of mud, high boost peak is set between highs and high-mids, so it ends up boosting both and does not add character to either. Once again it is generic. Pickup and preamp upgrade would be very high on the list if you want to keep it.

I have decided to keep it. It is good enough to be a backup, and solid enough to last (or so it seems). I will most definitely upgrade pickups if I am able to completely solve the B string issue. The jury is still out on that matter but I think I will be able to figure it out. Overall I think it was a good purchase, as long as you do not expect the quality of a boutique bass. I this case you get what you pay for.
 
NIce review, and extremely accurate. The only differences I have seen were that the string spacing was more like 17.5mm on the two I have owned and the B string, while not great, was definitely workable. But in fairness, the two HXB406's I've had were both older versions (1st series issues after they stopped the V2's), and I always immediately switch strings to LaBella flats, which is a higher tension string.

That's a very good, fair and honest appraisal of the HXB's. IMO, the only Brice bass that really steps up is the Z6, but even that requires some attention prior to gigging .....

Good job on the review ....... :cool:
 
In my experience, the sound of the low B has more to do with the pickups than just about any other factor. I have a 34" BB405 that came with cheap, Yamaha J-style pickups and cheap strings. I put D'addario Chromes on, and that helped but it came alive when I installed a couple of Q-Tuner pickups. I believe you need pups with sufficient frequency response to actually see those low frequencies. If not, just about everything else you do will be marginal, at best. Just my opinion, mind you.

Great review - thanks for sharing.
 
Excellent review of a capable work-a-day bass. My experience with my V2 pretty much echoes everything, except the B string on mine is outstanding. I don't think that Brice has ever used pickups better than the active EMG copies on the V2 series, but active EQ is more important on a sales person's spec sheet so that's what they went to and downgraded the pickups substantially in the process.

Mine was a showroom model in the old Rondo store and was unplayable when I bought it the action was so high it needed a setup desperately. Once set up it is a capable bass, even the B string, though "tone" and "character" are somewhat lacking.
 
Hi everybody,

A quick update on my previous review:

I played this bass all summer long and started noticing the string buzz becoming more and more prominent. I do my own set-ups and usually I am able to achieve a very low action.Thinking that temperature changes may have impacted the wood, I tweaked it to the best of my ability. After several hours spent on it I had to admit my defeat and decided to consult a luthier.

Well, the news weren't that good. The frets were not glued in, and not properly seated. Consequently due to exposure to heat and humidity they were sprouting left and right. It was so bad, that you could push the fret with your fingers in, and after you release it, it would just pop back up. Unfortunately it was not one or two frets, but almost half of them. The estimated repair cost? I am glad you asked: $200, which corresponds the two thirds of the original cost.

Needless to say I do not own it any more. I hope that it was just this particular bass. Maybe other Brice owners, who prefer very low action can chime in and let me know their experiences.

As far as I am concerned, I do not see myself owning another Brice any time in the future. They are cheap to acquire, but way too expensive to maintain. Once again, you get what you pay for.

Good Luck!

V.
 
Great update, and the perfect example of why I'd still rather pay a bit more for a "name" brand that's playable out-of-the-box than purchase a Brice/SX ultra-low budget bass and modifying it upward with several hundred dollars worth of pickups & electronics, hardware, and fretwork: I simply fail to see the logic in paying a great deal more in the modifications than the bass itself if almost half the frets might loosen during a humid summer, and the QC issues come not just from this review but a friend's real-life experience as well.

I can somewhat understand the purchasers of this pricepoint of basses and why they'd want to take what can be a decent "starter" neck and body and outfit it with pickups, electronics, and hardware to come out with a bass close to their specifications for an extremely low amount of money. However, it seems that the "risk/reward" ratio is far too high (at least in my case, where "Disposable Income" simply isn't) and that proven good quality basses such as Yamaha, Ibanez, Fender, and others are available online in a variety of conditions (i.e. a body and neck with hardware or finish issues) and able to modify much like the ultra-lows.
 
My 2 cents - (Ed knew I'd be chiming in)...

I now have 3 Brices - my Prestige Z6 - which, even after a re-shielding of the entire pickup cavity, still buzzes...now contemplating on switching out the pickups or getting a new bass - a fretless V2 (which, to echo philbiker's comments, is the nicest fretless I've ever played - all I had to do was adjust the bridge a little...okay, move it back a 1/8 inch for dead on intonation and dropped a 3 band Bart eq into it...now I know why they stopped making these...@199 new, they had to be losing a ton of money on them), and now a fretless Z6 bolt on. I'm going to drop a Bart into it as well, but put LaBella tapewounds on it. With the 19 mm string spacing, it'll be a great jazz gigger.

All that said, for a couple hundred bucks, you CAN'T beat these things. Yes, you will get a bad one, and humidity will crush ANY bass...not just a Brice. But when anyone speaks of name brands, I hope they're not thinking of getting something at the local GC and think it's going to play well right off the wall. I worked at a music store for 6 months where all they did was "rearrange the chairs on the Titanic" - strings were rusted due to the A/C, necks warped, not to mention the kids that came in just to goof around on a Saturday afternoon. I visited two local music stores in the past week, and yep, the situation hasn't changed.

Sure, my Adler plays like butter but there's a little bit of a buzz at the 17th fret - nothing to complain about because the action is so INCREDIBLY low. Lots of great comments about Roscoes and MTDs too - and lots of high price tags (you get what you pay for).

However, given the choice between a Brice for 300 to 500 bucks and a Fender (oh, wait, you can't get a 6 string Fender) an Ibanez 6 (the 1 that's in the local Guitar Center) or buying Cirrus (great basses, but so thin that hanging on a guitar store wall will cause warping), Schecter or even ordering a Carvin in the 600 to 1000+ range, it's either a Brice with mods or someone's going to build me something nice that suits my specs.

Z
 
Good review. I have an HB-406 and there is only one thing I saw different on mine than you found on yours. The fretwork was good, and all it took to get a very low action was a truss rod adjustment. I'm amazed at how low the action is on mine, and how good it plays. I guess they aren't consistent and I just got a good one. The B is a little weak, but not nearly as bad as you say yours is.

I put a Bart NTMB preamp in mine and it sounds pretty good. The pickups aren't bad with a decent preamp. All in all it is a good bass. I've gigged with it with no problems.
 
Thanks T.B. Player and Showdown for chiming in. It's great that other Brice owners have had better luck with these instruments. However I did not choose the route of repairing/modifying my brice based on the following calculation:

After the fretwork, new preamp and pickups I would have spent around $700 ($300 for bass, $200 for the repairs and $200 for pickups and pre) For $700 you can get much higher quality used gear - a wide array of instruments are available to choose from. Using TB classifieds as an example it is safe to day that almost all of them will be much higher quality than brice.

Also I have a suspicion that in order to keep the price down, most "budget" bass manufacturers use the wood that has not been properly cured. It is a working theory, as I can not prove it. It would explain the fret sprout and it would also explain why other backup basses, which I acquired for similar amounts and played in the same conditions did not exhibit the same behavior. E.g. Yamaha BB605 and Spector Q4. They shared the same humidity and heat, required neck adjustments, but did not go belly up like brice. And I am not talking about high quality gear (say Warwick or G&L) which in my experience has stellar reputation of performing under the same conditions.

I can understand modifying brice if it had some unique quality that I could not find in other basses but I was not able to find it. This quality is very subjective, so I can see how other people would reach very different conclusions than I did.
 
I picked up a Brice HXB 406 NATQ last week and am quite happy with it. My main bass is a USA Lakland 55-94, so I am used to a well-set-up, quality, great sounding bass. The Brice is quite a bargain for $300. Only problem out of the box was that the G string was bottoming out at the first fret for a sitar like effect. I solved this by raising the C, G & D strings just a bit, then pulling up the neck PUP to compensate the volume loss. I played it today direct through a Radial Bassbone, channel 1, with the preset tone switch in the #2 setting. Normally I run this channel Flat with the Lakland. My soundman was very happy with the bass -- because the output is not as hot as the 55-94, he was able to back off compression and get a very heavy, yet clear bottom end. I ran the tone controls on the bass with very, very slight boost for treble and bass and the mids set flat.

Fretwork is fine up and down the neck (no high frets) and smooth at the edges -- the neck is fit well and solid, and only one dead spot -- 5th-fret C on the G string. About the only thing I don't like is that it's heavier than the Lakland and not as well-balanced. It doesn't neck dive, but there's a definite tilt toward the headstock. String spacing is a bit tighter than the 55-94, but I adapted well. The B string is not at all floppy, but it's not as clear in tone all the way up the neck as the Lakland. I attribute this to a combination of strings and electronics.

I love the sound. I run TI flats on my Lakland and the rounds on this bass plus the C string give me a nice more contemporary sound. I doubt that I'll scrap the Lakland :p, but I have played $600 basses that weren't made as well as this Brice and $900 basses that played worse.