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Markbass F1 First Impressions

KJung

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Apr 9, 2005
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I've been pounding on it for an hour or so, and since I have a lot of hours in on the SD800 and the LMII, I think I pretty much have a feel for this nice little amp. Since they just started arriving in the US, I thought I'd post a picture and my first impressions since most have not seen one yet.

Here it is in a nutshell (IMO as always):

- Same footprint as the LMII, but about an inch or so thinner. So, smaller, but not a lot smaller.

- Very nicely made. This unit, as has been posted by a couple of others, feels 'better' than the SD800 and LMII... the knobs feel a little more solid, etc. Not a big issue, but very nice.

- The look is very cool... so thin, and not a lot of yellow to be seen:D

- The unit has two dual use Speakons versus the strange single dual use Speakon/1/4 on the LMII. All other controls, etc. are identical.

- DI... for better or worse, I believe the DI circuit is the same as the LMII, which according to some, is not a good thing.

- Sound: This is DEFINITELY a smaller version of the SD800 and not some sort of 'LMII Update'. IMO. Given the similarity of design (class D amp), this is not surprising. I've A/B'd carefully now with the SD800, and the tone is almost identical. Of course, the SD800 has that massive low end presence when cranked, but at moderate volumes, these amps are the same. Basically, the F1 has less mid warmth, and a little bit of an upper mid voicing versus the LMII, and also a little more 'hi fi/clinical' treble response. As a result, it feels a little quicker, maybe a touch tighter, and more SS than the LMII.

- Slimbag/Portabag laptop case storage. I only have my Slimbag at my present location. Close, but no cigar IMO:bawl:. It fits, but it makes the pocket difficult to close, and there's not much room for anything else. I'll check it with the Portabag in a couple of weeks when I get to where I keep it!

- One thing strange... the unit makes a short 'whoop' sound as it powers down. The SD800 does not do this, although the SD800 has some 'delay' circuitry at start-up and power down, so it may be masking that. I'm not sure if this is 'class D' normal, and have a PM out to Peter Murray (or maybe he can just post here). Not a problem, as long as it's 'normal' for this head.

Summary: At a cost of $849 versus $599, unless you really are a 'clean, class D freak' (maybe a DB player), IMO and IME the LMII is the better bet.


NOTE: GUITAR CENTER. I know a lot of you guys don't dig them. However, this is my third MB transaction with two different centers, and the service has been WONDERFUL. As an example, I couldn't find my receipt for my LMII that I purchased in April. I called the GC in Chicago. The sales guy listened to me, and then asked if he could put me on hold. I thought, oh boy, here we go. About 10 seconds later, he asked me if I wanted the copy of the receipt faxed or mailed. Fantastic. IMO, NO ONE should eliminate MB from their consideration set due to hesitation about dealing with GC:)

Here it is on top of the little Bergantino HT210s (nice match-up by the way... even with the relatively low SPL 8ohm HT210s... just like the LMII, this thing has a LOT of ooomph).



Hope that gives you all some early info on this impressive little head, and also helps clarify the decision between the LMII and F1 for those 'on the fence'.
 
Thank Ken! That thing looks freakishly small on top of the HT210s!!! Nice review as always.

The single space height is really something. Again, it is the full 10 x 10, so not quite as small as you would think staring at it 'head on'. It's very nice. I'm using the SD800/401UL(II) this weekend, but will probably throw this in the car and do a set with it to see what it will do!
 
Hey Tony! This won't replace the mighty SVT, so you are safe from the Ampeg monster:D

But since I am not gigging regularly any more and I am playing lots with my little studio band project, a smaller rig is very appealing.

I put my SVT rig in storage for a while and have been using my GK 200RCB for these small room sessions with a ho-made, ported 115 using the speaker from my very first Peavey TNT 130 that you may remember... or not!

But I'd really like to update my small rig. Your reviews help a lot (or hurt, if you are looking from my wife's angle)!

Thanks!
 
But since I am not gigging regularly any more and I am playing lots with my little studio band project, a smaller rig is very appealing.

I put my SVT rig in storage for a while and have been using my GK 200RCB for these small room sessions with a ho-made, ported 115 using the speaker from my very first Peavey TNT 130 that you may remember... or not!

But I'd really like to update my small rig. Your reviews help a lot (or hurt, if you are looking from my wife's angle)!

Thanks!

You still have the TNT! Cool. We've pretty much all owned one of those at one point or the other. One of the first combo's that actually sounded like a reall bass amp.

Lot's of good sounding small stuff out there, but most is oriented toward the clean, crisp, SS side of things, which I love. However, if you love tubes, have you checked out a Mesa Walkabout yet? They have a couple of them down at Gravity Strings. Fat, warm, old school tubey goodness.. very 'all tube' sounding considering it's a hybrid design. Pretty cool. Drop my name to Jimmy if you don't know the guys down there and I bet he will let you try it on a gig. Of course, the GK stuff can growl and grunt also, so you are in good shape there.

Hope to see you someday. I believe I'm back gigging in St. Louis the middle of November, with maybe a club gig on a Friday. I'll PM you as it gets closer.

K
 
Hmm. Cool review.

Based on your review and what I've heard before, it doesn't really interest me.

The R500 on the other hand...:hyper:

Is that available now too??

From a post by Peter Murray yesterday, the R500's are now available. The F1 is an awesome little head, but it is on the SS/Quick/clean end of the tone spectrum. From the description, I assume the R500 will be much more toward the vintage 'tube' sort of hybrid vibe.
 
....I've A/B'd carefully now with the SD800, and the tone is almost identical. Of course, the SD800 has that massive low end presence when cranked, but at moderate volumes, these amps are the same.....
Well, you've been calling this one for quite a while, eh? I'm still loving the tone of the SD but just can't imagine needing a lighter amp at the moment. I REALLY wish the SD had a 'power amp in' so I could use my WalkAbout pre into 750 watts. Have you tried anything in front of the SD to warm it up?
 
From a post by Peter Murray yesterday, the R500's are now available. From the description, I assuem the R500 will be much more toward the vintage 'tube' sort of vibe.
What is the main factor that makes the R500 so different from the TA501 or TA503. Aside from things like the VLE and VPF which the R500 won't have. Is it the fact the R500 is analog or are the others too? I notice the R500 doesn't seem to have a fan.

It seems MarkBass is using less yellow paint on the newer face plate schemes ,or have the F1 and R500 been in exsistence just as long as the LMII?
 
Ken, did you try removing the feet from the F1 before putting it in the bag? They add another half inch or so- after removing the feet on my LMII, I was able to fit it in my Low End gig bag's pouch while I couldn't with the feet still on.

Strange about the rack ears- I swear I read somewhere that the F1 was supposed to come with them.

Thanks for the review- I'm still interested in trying one out.