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Markbass Cabinets: A GC Experience

I am writing this thread as a means to talk not only about my experience with these cabs, but also as an example of a good Guitar Center experience.

Upon arriving at the GC in Towson, MD, I checked in with the front desk with my SA-450 strapped to my back and my bass in it's case. At the gate, I was greeted by Adam who graciously offered his assistance.

Upon being escorted to the Markbass section, Adam cleared all the basses in front of all the stacks and obtained a bench for me. Adam set my amp up while I tuned up and then I took in the selection available.

Looking through the selection there was an F1, Little Mark II, R500, and an SD800. For cabinets, there were the 102P, 115P, 104HR, 151HR, and CL108. All cabinets were 8 ohms (except the CL108). There were also three combos.

While I was tempted to try out the R500 through the CL108, I didn't want to fuel the gas. Obviously, at this moment I was looking at the possibility of a 4x10 or 2x10 plus a 1x15. Before I begin describing my sound experience, I would like to reiterate that all cabs I tried were rear ported and 8 ohms. The EQ was set flat and the filters were off.

104HR:

Upon playing the first couple of notes through the cab, I immediately noticed the clarity of the cabinet along with the thick midrange. Harmonics rang effortlessly. The cabinet had plenty of punch. One thing of mention is at flat for the tweeter is all the way up on the attenuator.

The highs are smooth and certainly not harsh. I definitely wouldn't define it as sparkle. However, for you slappers, turning up the VPF made me forget about the sparkle. I felt it was just bright enough. I probably could've dialed in more highs, but I felt it wasn't needed.

The lows of the cab aren't super deep with the EQ flat and the filters off. But I couldn't help but feel that on stage I wouldn't want anymore lows than what the cab put out. Reaching for the lows on the SA-450 gave me plenty of rumble, but the lows still remained tight.

The mids are what I enjoyed the most out of the cabinet. As I stated they were thick and detailed. One thing that really stood out is that as time progressed and the noise was increasing, I could still hear the bass clearly through everything that was going on. This was very impressive.

104HR + 151HR:
This combination was huge sounding. The depth of the bass was incredible between the low end extension and the coupling of the cabs together. The 151HR acted purely as an extension of the 104HR and meshed seamlessly.

102P:
The 102P on its own added more clarity and the sparkle that the 104HR was missing. Given the small box size, one cannot expect deep lows out of the cab, but the 102P did not disappoint.

I was able to dial in the lows on the 102P to get reasonably close to what I was hearing in the 104HR. Even flat, I could not really complain. Given the size of the box and the sound coming out, I would say that it delivers what I would expect it to.

102P + 151HR:
This combination combined the clarity and sparkle of the 102P with the depth and punch of the 151HR. While it did not have the huge feeling of the 104HR along with the 151HR, it was a hard decision to ignore.

On a side note it was later noted that the 151HR had been exhibiting a bit of a rattle.

This was disconcerting at first, because I was highly considering that particular 15. However, there was still another 15, the Traveler 151P.

151P:
By itself, I felt that it did not lack the oomph that the 151HR had. So I was very relieved to hear this. On top of that, the smaller box design yielded a nice midrange on top of the depth of the sound. The piezo tweeter really rounded out the cabinet with the right amount of sparkle. Overall, I was impressed at the punch and the quickness along with the clarity and sparkle. I could easily see myself using this alone on a small gig.

102P + 151P:
I turned the tweeter off on the 151P since they were not inline. This is a very punchy combination that I felt yielded a better result than the 104HR on its own. There was sparkle, there was depth and there was superb clarity.

So can you guess what I bought...?

You guessed it, the 102P + 151P stack. Although, I did enjoy the 104HR with its thicker low mids compared to the 102P. Overall, I felt this was the most versatile combination of what was available. Adam was extremely patient and helpful as we swapped back and forth between cabinets several times and even carted the cabs out to my car at the far end of the parking lot and loaded them up for me. For $1200 for both cabinets, it was a steal.





 

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I have the same two cabinets (but took the logo off the fronts). However, I am using them in a biamp setup. Absolutely right about the 102P not having enough low end. The 115P really adds to this setup, and is still about the lightest 210+115 around.

I also put wheels on the 115 - light, and now I can push both cabinets around easily.
 
Thanks for the little reviews Melvin!

I also love my little MB stack!

I have two single 12" traveler cabs with my LMII.

They sound awesome together. If I don't need the power then I just use one.

It doenst sound as open as the 410, but with some eqing it comes close. It has more of a lowmid vibe.

Congrats with your amazing stack!
 
Thanks for the little reviews Melvin!

I also love my little MB stack!

I have two single 12" traveler cabs with my LMII.

They sound awesome together. If I don't need the power then I just use one.

It doenst sound as open as the 410, but with some eqing it comes close. It has more of a lowmid vibe.

Congrats with your amazing stack!

Thanks Cigi. I'll probably be picking up a 121H in the near future. The Traveler cabs really are impressive.
 
And your selections are totally different than what you predicted in the Markbass vs Boutique cabs thread. :) Just goes to show you have to TRY this stuff out.

GC gets a bad rap, but the one by me is pretty good. I got my 102p off the floor, got it home and it started shorting out. Took it back, and GC had one on my doorstep the next day from UPS.

My rules:
1. Don't go to GC when school is out.
2. Try to avoid it if the ratio of bassists to guitarists is less than 1:1.
3. Do some research ahead of time and be knowledgeable about what you are looking for.
 
Both my cabinets came off the floor and they offerred me the 102P new in box. But I told them that I already determined that the cabs on the floor work and I didn't want any surprised when I unboxed the cab. Besides, I saw several other bassists come in that day and they all gravitated towards Ampeg and Gallien-Krueger. I don't believe the cabinets were abused at all.
 
Thanks for the review! i am looking for a MB traveler cab for my Eden WT800A but i was a little bit reluctant because of the bad reputation of MB cabs. Now after a try i think i will go for a 4 ohms 112H or the brand new NY112 (avaiable from now here in Italy) that weights only 13.3 kg, or the new NY604. Will post a review if I will have the occasion to try these...
 
I have yet to see any negative reviews from anyone who has ever used the MB cabinets live. Having had the chance to finally try out the cabs, I was easily able to think about what everyone else had said about the cabinets and weighed against my impressions. I could see where the complaints would come from, but I can't help but think that these cabs would do really well in a live mix after hearing where the frequency emphasis lies in the cab.

I could have easily described the 104HR as barky, dull, and weak. However, my exact comments would have been authoritative, smooth, and tight. So as you can see, opinions can be extremely different. You really owe it to yourself to find out for yourself.
 
Glad you found a good match. Adam at the Towson store is a great guy.
Very funny, knows his stuff & is a killer bass player, too.
As I live only about 10 min. away, I see far too much of him.
Have fun with the new rig & let me know when you're heading down this way again, we'll have a mini GTG at the Hooters down the road:ninja:
 
I've got the 115P and always thought the 102P would be its perfect partner, but not having the funds I never dared try it.
Your review makes me want it even more now...(how could you?)... And the picture showing how perfectly they sit together (in terms of cab width etc).

Thanks for a really great review and making me wish I had more money!!!
 
I've got the 115P and always thought the 102P would be its perfect partner, but not having the funds I never dared try it.
Your review makes me want it even more now...(how could you?)... And the picture showing how perfectly they sit together (in terms of cab width etc).

Thanks for a really great review and making me wish I had more money!!!

I hear ya there. I actually did not have the funds, and so I sold a lot of things that people would call me crazy for. However, I am in no way regretting my decision. Here's a list of what I sold:

Alembic F-1X Tube Pre
Crest CA-9 Power Amp
Bergantino HT210S (I like my Markbass cabs better than the Bergantino!)
Furman PL-Plus II
Novation Bass Station Rack
SKB 4-space and 10-space rack, plus rack shelf
Boss LS-2
Robert Keeley Modded Boss BD-2

The Alembic, Crest, and Bergantino primarily funded my cab purchase. Overall, my back, my ears, and even my eyes are very happy. :)
 
Here's a list of what I sold:

Alembic F-1X Tube Pre
Crest CA-9 Power Amp
Bergantino HT210S (I like my Markbass cabs better than the Bergantino!)
Furman PL-Plus II
Novation Bass Station Rack
SKB 4-space and 10-space rack, plus rack shelf
Boss LS-2
Robert Keeley Modded Boss BD-2

The Alembic, Crest, and Bergantino primarily funded my cab purchase. Overall, my back, my ears, and even my eyes are very happy. :)

WOW...if your ears were used to that standard of equipment and you still say
my ears ... are very happy. :)

That makes me feel even more inclinded to get the 2x10...It also makes me feel I made a good choice when I got the LMII with 115P, which was over 2 years ago (before a lot of people had a chance to try and test them properly).

Anyway I can say I think you made the right decision. For people who appreciate the "Natural" sound of a "simple" and "clear" amp such as Markbass there's no comparison...Why have hundreds of effects and pre's and power amps all from different companies when you love the sound of a simple amp and 2 cabs all from one manufacturer which were all made to be together. (I'll shut up now before everyone tells me I'm stupid for not putting together the best from all different manufactures to get the "perfect rig"...I dont care cause I love my markbass!)
 
I agree. Everything in the past, I've been competing against the sound of my amp. I am the most happy with Markbass because I believe I'm hearing my bass for what it is. My Alembic in comparison sounded like a blanket over the sound (even set flat). The Bergantino was always nice and really delivered for me in the past, but never wowed me in the way the Markbass cabs did. The sound just jumps out the cabinet.
 

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