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Sub-Short Scale Talk

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HaphAsSard said:
Chances are the Ibanez Mikro, too-short-for-their-own-intended-purpose string set (IEBS4CMK) is actually a perfect fit for the also-toploading, also-28.6", headstock-not-as-well-planned Squier Mini P.
Ducked. And. Dunn.
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I've come to the same conclusion. I will be ordering a set this coming weekend to test this theory, and will report my results in all appropriate threads.

tymbrewolf said:
I consider the mikro a short scale
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:D I came here because of my Fame M-03 Mini (20.5"). Since the thread definition is < 30", my Squier Mini P (28.5"), and J&D Mini Jazz (29"), also qualify. As do Mikros.

To be fair, there is (relatively) little in this thread for the "long" sub-shortys, so I tend to dig in the Mikro threads for information pertaining to those.
 
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6Bass101 said:
The neck needs more adjustment than the truss rod will give. But I’ve been adjusting it little by little and will continue to do so over the next few days. I also think it will need a shim. The output jack doesn’t have a nut to hold it in place. It’s basically held in by friction. I just got this bass yesterday, but it’s actually the second one I’ve had since the first one arrived with shipping damage. That one had the same neck and output jack issues.
I love the body shape so I’m willing to tinker with it and even replace the neck if need be. The jack is an easy fix. I think I’ll be able to get neck right with some heat and clamping it up. We’ll see.
It also sounds good, so there’s that.
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Just an update on the Glenn Burton: I clamped the neck with some heat and was able to get that last bit of adjustment I need. A new output jack (maybe a shim) and this one’s ready to go.
 
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6Bass101 said:
Just an update on the Glenn Burton: I clamped the neck with some heat and was able to get that last bit of adjustment I need. A new output jack (maybe a shim) and this one’s ready to go.
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My glen burton definitely needed a shim. After that, it played really well.
I just didn't like the wobbliness of the strings. I felt like it had better tension using BEAD strings, but still tuning EADG.

My Burton is currently under construction as I'm swapping the pickups, but I really like it. :bassist:
 
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any update from black diamond?

Joe Nerve said:
This thread's been around 10 years, and I'm pretty sure its the first time I'm seeing it :).

I'm ridiculously happy I bought myself one of these during the year or 2 they were on the market. It fits in an airline overheard, has a rock solid maple neck that almost feels boutique, sounds great plugged in, is louder than an acoustic bass, and has a bunch of cool drum beats with a tempo control to jam along to. This is one I will NEVER let go of, and it only cost me about $300.

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what is that?
 
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pcake said:
any update from black diamond?
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I checked in with them many times. They are very nice people, and wanted to help, and every time I check in with them, they say they Still have it in the queue. I think recovery from covid has them too backed up for things like this. Frankly, I filed away the email - meaning, I am assuming it is not happening. I moved on.

Again, they have been very nice the whole way, and I recommend their strings. Really good strings.
 
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Logic_11 said:
I felt like it had better tension using BEAD strings, but still tuning EADG.
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In case anyone has a guitar-scale bass with adjustable saddles and wants tensions comparable to a long-scale bass, these strings exist - Fernandes BSZ-2000, the accompanying set for the Fernandes Pie-Zo a.k.a. Nomad Bass:
FERNANDES BSZ-2000 Base string for PIE-ZO 4514922023598 | eBay
Gauges 65-80-105-125.
(An eebae search reveals more vendors, at higher prices.)
 
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HaphAsSard said:
In case anyone has a guitar-scale bass with adjustable saddles and wants tensions comparable to a long-scale bass, these strings exist - Fernandes BSZ-2000, the accompanying set for the Fernandes Pie-Zo a.k.a. Nomad Bass:
FERNANDES BSZ-2000 Base string for PIE-ZO 4514922023598 | eBay
Gauges 65-80-105-125.
(An eebae search reveals more vendors, at higher prices.)
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Those look pretty sketchy..33 bucks plus 30 bucks shipping lol......I would stay far away from those... PIE-ZO???
 
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Glennbassmann said:
Those look pretty sketchy..33 bucks plus 30 bucks shipping lol......I would stay far away from those... PIE-ZO???
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Japanese company, product's from Japan.
"Pie-zo" is wordplay for the pickup system (strings are steel-core and work on mag pickups though, as reported by TB member @reep in an old post in this very thread) + the Japanese word for "elephant", zō. The string package sleeve spoilers it, but you can Google a pic of the bass (originally marketed in the West as Fernandes Nomad Bass) to know why.
SBassman said:
I imagine that stuff is very old NOS. I can't imagine it is being produced any longer.
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Imagine again. The current model in their bass line is indeed different (30" scale instead of 24"):
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However, the old one was apparently successful enough that the strings appear to be indeed still produced and are featured on the company website:
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with the same package sleeve.
 
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HaphAsSard said:
Japanese company, product's from Japan.
"Pie-zo" is wordplay for the pickup system (strings are steel-core and work on mag pickups though, as reported by TB member @reep in an old post in this very thread) + the Japanese word for "elephant", zō. The string package sleeve spoilers it, but you can Google a pic of the bass (originally marketed in the West as Fernandes Nomad Bass) to know why.

Imagine again. The current model in their bass line is indeed different (30" scale instead of 24"):
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However, the old one was apparently successful enough that the strings appear to be indeed still produced and featured on the company website:
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with the same package sleeve.
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Interesting. I didn't think Fernandes even existed any longer. Been a long time since I have noticed one of their guitars or basses new for sale online. That 24 incher was ahead of it's time. They should put it back into production.
 
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SBassman said:
I checked in with them many times. They are very nice people, and wanted to help, and every time I check in with them, they say they Still have it in the queue. I think recovery from covid has them too backed up for things like this. Frankly, I filed away the email - meaning, I am assuming it is not happening. I moved on.

Again, they have been very nice the whole way, and I recommend their strings. Really good strings.
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they were quick to respond to my email asking about the set. they replied, saying they're working on them and should be available in about a month. while they may have told you that before, some companies aren't the best at planning.

i'm going to check back and see if there's any progress.
 
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SBassman said:
Interesting. I didn't think Fernandes even existed any longer. Been a long time since I have noticed one of their guitars or basses new for sale online. That 24 incher was ahead of it's time. They should put it back into production.
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A Google search (I'm starting to read like as much a Big G shill as I do a Fernandes one, neither of which I happen to be...) has revealed:
- that they do have closed their US division,
Fernandes Guitars
but still have an importer:
Fernandes
- that the original bass was "loved for more that 20 years" (whatever that means, but the year of introduction was 1996 according to one source). If they kept it in the market, or at least the domestic market, for that long it is possible that a fair chunk of today's Japanese bassists must have learned the ropes on one. Somehow the company were never able to crack the Western market with it, which, put in other terms, does mean that it was ahead of its time. Or, let's say too much in between times (the other golden-ish age of guitar-scale basses was 1959-1965 or so).
 
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