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1 cab or 2?

#24
Ok guys thanks a million for all the advice!
So:
1) Get another identical cab
2) Stack it vertical on top of each other

Just as a side issue guys...can you name a good pedal to get a nice crunch tone without loosing the bottom end of my rig/sound?
Ive got a maxon tubesceamer, and a little big muff, and a boss ds-2 - but i used to use these when i played guitar - would they be any good?

What does everyone else use?
 
#25
FiveHorses said:
Ok guys thanks a million for all the advice!
So:
1) Get another identical cab
2) Stack it vertical on top of each other

Just as a side issue guys...can you name a good pedal to get a nice crunch tone without loosing the bottom end of my rig/sound?
Ive got a maxon tubesceamer, and a little big muff, and a boss ds-2 - but i used to use these when i played guitar - would they be any good?

What does everyone else use?
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Try them with your rig. That said I use an Aguilar Tone Hammer. I DO have to dial up the bass and low mids with the AGS engaged, but it sounds good to me.
 
#26
CL400Peavey said:
Nope. You dont loose ground coupling unless you are about three feet off of the ground.
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Okay but isn't there two types of ground coupling? Resonant coupling or something like that? Like if you played on a hollow wooden stage or riser

And everyone says with a vertical stack you get better sideways dispersion, so if you had a horizontal stack wouldn't it disperse a lot more energy into the floor/ground/stage
 
#28
arai said:
Okay but isn't there two types of ground coupling? Resonant coupling or something like that? Like if you played on a hollow wooden stage or riser

And everyone says with a vertical stack you get better sideways dispersion, so if you had a horizontal stack wouldn't it disperse a lot more energy into the floor/ground/stage
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Transmitting energy into the floor/ground/stage is actually a loss of audible volume. The energy that should be moving the air is instead moving the stage. That might make a difference to the player standing on the stage, but out in the audiance its not a noticable, let alone audible effect. Actuall mechanical coupling with the floor is something you want to avoid.
 
#29
On the subject of good dirt boxes, there's a couple really great threads going on at the moment on the subject.

I have a Pork Loin, which is really nice for keeping low end...the next purchase I'll be making is the Fairfield Barbershop :)
 
#30
I may have used the wrong word when I said "coupling" from stacking. I'm thinking of how the two cabs combine to sound better in a vert stack. It's probably not "coupling."
 
#31
dukeorock said:
On the subject of good dirt boxes, there's a couple really great threads going on at the moment on the subject.

I have a Pork Loin, which is really nice for keeping low end...the next purchase I'll be making is the Fairfield Barbershop :)
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Great. I need a haircut. Startin' to look like a hippee. Appointments needed or walk-in O.K. :D ?
 
#33
CL400Peavey said:
Transmitting energy into the floor/ground/stage is actually a loss of audible volume. The energy that should be moving the air is instead moving the stage. That might make a difference to the player standing on the stage, but out in the audiance its not a noticable, let alone audible effect. Actuall mechanical coupling with the floor is something you want to avoid.
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Mechanical coupling, that's it.
So if it makes it louder on stage and not out the front horizontal could be perfect for stage monitoring if you have good PA support?
 
#35
CL400Peavey said:
No, it doesnt actually make it louder on stage. You just feel the stage move more. It is simply tranmitting more energy into the stage.
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Strange. I notice a lot more low end if I put my amp on the floor on some stages, usually old wooden stages. Sometimes I have to lift it up to eliminate boom.
What am I hearing?
 
#36
arai said:
Strange. I notice a lot more low end if I put my amp on the floor on some stages, usually old wooden stages. Sometimes I have to lift it up to eliminate boom.
What am I hearing?
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You are hearing lack of off axis dispersion in part. Lows are omni direcitonal so having the driver farther away from you/being more off axis to a driver means you hear more lows and less highs and mids. You may be getting some stage rumble, but that isnt what I consider "useful" volume, and it doesnt translate to the crowd well imho.
 
#37
CL400Peavey said:
You are hearing lack of off axis dispersion in part. Lows are omni direcitonal so having the driver farther away from you/being more off axis to a driver means you hear more lows and less highs and mids. You may be getting some stage rumble, but that isnt what I consider "useful" volume, and it doesnt translate to the crowd well imho.
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To clarify, the energy that is going into the stage is going to make it vibrate, but only at certain frequencies. This adds mud/boom where you dont want it. It is NOT making you more audible on stage.
 
#38
CL400Peavey said:
To clarify, the energy that is going into the stage is going to make it vibrate, but only at certain frequencies. This adds mud/boom where you dont want it. It is NOT making you more audible on stage.
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It quit often is the case that is why I have to lift it sometimes. I have found it usefull sometimes and it is more then just "the bass sounds louder because the highs go past your legs".
What are your thoughts on putting you cabs in the corner of the room?
 
#39
arai said:
It quit often is the case that is why I have to lift it sometimes. I have found it usefull sometimes and it is more then just "the bass sounds louder because the highs go past your legs".
What are your thoughts on putting you cabs in the corner of the room?
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You do gain a percieved volume boost when you corner load a cab. I forget what it is, maybe ~3 db or something as an increase?
 
#40
dukeorock said:
On the subject of good dirt boxes, there's a couple really great threads going on at the moment on the subject.

I have a Pork Loin, which is really nice for keeping low end...the next purchase I'll be making is the Fairfield Barbershop :)
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Love the Barbershop. It's an always-on pedal for me. Great low to moderate overdrive; absolutely transparent tone; responds well to dynamics.
 

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