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12" Speakers for Sealed Cabs Showdown - Emi vs Fane

Hey, please, can you recommend Beyma BR70 for sealed 2x12 cabinet or no? I am noob at this and cannot calculate best possible option for this 2x12, I have it vented and it cannot handle my bassman copy from 74. but works great with other heads.

Yeah, it's certainly more tuned to sealed use (really low Fs and EBP = 55 << 100). It also has a pretty good frequency range, up to about 4k and down to 50Hz at -3dB in a 1.5cf box. It looks like it'd be really wonky in a ported box, as you've found.

The trade off comes with the efficiency. It's not going to get super loud and the power handling is modest. With the rubber surround and lower efficiency, I'm thinking it's meant for consumer applications, like home stereo, etc. and not pro-audio. Or kind of somewhere in between. But they will certainly be worth trying out if you've got them.

If you build a box 29" tall x 18" wide x 16" deep outside dimensions with 3/4" ply and the baffle inset 1" (inside dimensions: 27-1/2" x 17-1/2" x 12-1/2"), you'll be right at 3cf net, which looks to be a good starting point. It'll weigh about 50 lbs. If you use 1/2" ply, it'll be closer to 40 lbs. (Don't forget to make it 1/2" smaller on all sides if you do).

The frequency response looks pretty good to. Fairly flat with a slight bump at 2.5k and slight dip in the mids. Should sound pretty nice.
 
Hmm, actually, since they aren't super loud, heavy, or expensive... here's a 4x12 design:

3/4" ply, 1" baffle offset, braced accordingly

39" tall x 24" wide x 17" deep and about 90 lbs (70 lbs with 1/2" ply)

Driven to full tilt, that would be a touch louder than a ported super 15 like the Faital 15PR400. Twice the size, weight and cost; and sliiightly less booty. But looks cooler and has speakers up closer to your ears.


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Edit: 39" is 3'-3" not 3'-6". Doh. Measure twice.
 
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Yeah, it's certainly more tuned to sealed use (really low Fs and EBP = 55 << 100). It also has a pretty good frequency range, up to about 4k and down to 50Hz at -3dB in a 1.5cf box. It looks like it'd be really wonky in a ported box, as you've found.

The trade off comes with the efficiency. It's not going to get super loud and the power handling is modest. With the rubber surround and lower efficiency, I'm thinking it's meant for consumer applications, like home stereo, etc. and not pro-audio. Or kind of somewhere in between. But they will certainly be worth trying out if you've got them.

If you build a box 29" tall x 18" wide x 16" deep outside dimensions with 3/4" ply and the baffle inset 1" (inside dimensions: 27-1/2" x 17-1/2" x 12-1/2"), you'll be right at 3cf net, which looks to be a good starting point. It'll weigh about 50 lbs. If you use 1/2" ply, it'll be closer to 40 lbs. (Don't forget to make it 1/2" smaller on all sides if you do).

The frequency response looks pretty good to. Fairly flat with a slight bump at 2.5k and slight dip in the mids. Should sound pretty nice.

Well, thanks you wrote back quickly and thank you for measurements and calculation information. I mean I need a cab that will endure boomy bass going from old year 74 transformers. Not many cabs were enough to play with that monstrum. It has 135W measured output, but I guess I never had so strong amp before. These Beyma BR70s in 4 Ohms distort quickly, but it should be due to a bad calculation of the cab I am using. I bought it for my previous ABM500 EVO II, it was fine, no unwanted distortion, but with the Guyatone Bassman it distorts as hell. I was also thinking if the cab maybe is matched to 16 Ohms, that would explained everything, but I really dont know if its the reason.
 
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