The problem wasn';t the grammar - it was two contradictory statements.
No it wasn't. THIS was the original post:
"/\ So when a soundguy doesn't particularly feel like dealing with this ****, he just tells them that his stage isn't wide enough for their backline and he doesn't have to worry about it?"
Yes.. he was positing that
at the time of receiving the rider.
Do you seriously think they don't have a backout clause in their contracts?
I'm sure BOTH parties have strong CYA language in the contract. I'm willing to bet in most cases the venue/promoter (when we're talking about this level of band, not AC/DC) generally has stronger language, better lawyers, and a much higher chance of succeeding due to jurisdiction (it'll be in their local courts).
Really? Here's a list of the venues of their last few dates:
12/14/2012 Roseland/Peter’s Room - Portland, OR
So what's not true? They're not theaters and nightclubs?
Note that says "Roseland/Peter’s Room"?
That is because they aren't playing the actual Roseland Theater. They're playing the cheesy little "club"/waiting area/bar UNDER the Roseland.
Or that they're not able to play at 125db without violating noise ordinances in those buildings?
As someone who lived in Portland for years, and regularly attended shows at the Roseland - I guarantee they aren't getting away with 125dB in the downstairs area at the Roseland.
In fact - I doubt they'll be running the whole rig listed in that rider either.... because it won't even fit in the room.
Heck - the entire venue will only hold a couple hundred people.
EDIT: Here are the specs for that massive "theater"
Capacity: 400
Stage Dimensions: 20′ wide x 16′ deep x 4′ tall
Power: 1) 100amps 3 phase 208 volt switches 2) Dedicated. No Access.
Location: Upstage right
Lights: 24 par cans; 4 leko’s; 16 channel console 2 scene console
Sound System: 3 way T.A.D./JBL system, (2) JBL 2-18” subs, (2) TAD 2-12”/1-2” mid high, Avid SC48 console, 30 channel snake w/ transformer outs, 5 monitor mixes folded back from FOH.
(4) Bag End Passive Wedge monitors, (1) 3 way, bi-amped drum fill, w/1-18”, w/passive 1-15”, and 1-2”. See Main Room specs for mic selection.
I was arguing a legit scenario. Where's the strawman?
You were arguing against a completely different scenario than the one presented... you know, a the classic logical fallacy known as a strawman argument?
i.e.
A: Sunny days are good.
B: If all days were sunny, we'd never have rain, and without rain, we'd have famine and death.
In this case, B falsely frames A's claim to imply that A believes only sunny days are good, and B argues against that assertion. A actually asserts that sunny days are good and, in fact, says nothing about rainy days.
And what a great rock and roll show!
