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15 minutes between bands - no backline provided...?

The first quick change I ever saw with 15 minutes between multiple bands was in 1966 at the RKO 58th St Theater in NYC. The Who, Cream, Paul Butterfield, and more.

Drums always take the longest to set up. Their innovation was two rolling platforms for the drums. One backstage while the other was on. That left enough time for the other bands to roll their rigs onstage.

It was rumored Bill Graham ran the stagehand crew.
Saw this done on Wednesday night at a big show. It's not likely to happen at a smaller event, though. I do like the idea of setting up drums offstage if there is room to do that.
 
Been there, done that. When gear is not pre-staged and stacked, we set up gear offstage on those 4 wheel furniture dollies, all plugged in with pedalboard connected and signal path tested. Roll it out, plug it in to AC. Play set, unplugged from AC, roll it off. Drummer on his own... That of course implies that the stage has room in the wings to do so.
 
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Almost every rock club in Boston for decides ran the schedule- 4 bands between 10pm and 2 closing, 15 min changeover for 45 min set. That's 6-12 clubs 7 days a week for over 40 years. Ok some places do 3 bands. You are acutely aware that equipment must get off stage fast when you are done. (the prima donna can talk to the fans, they are generally useless with carrying stuff anyway.)(not so the fans) Even the massive Channel ran that schedule. An Irish pup might have one or 2 bands, acoustic nothin to set up. But it's an original music college town, I've never seen a cover band post high school, and that's what you get.
 
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Unless they have the set chang dance all set put ahead of time, get in touch with the other bands to plan.

If there is room behind the stage, next band sets up behind the stage. When each band is done, they hand their stuff off the front of the stage (or something like that) so everybody stays out of everybody's way.
 
You can turn a stage that fast, but only if you know what you're doing. For festivals with fast turns, you will get instructions telling you your part, expectations about gear, etc.

If all you've been told is they're turning the stage in 15 minutes, with no other info, you should assume they'll be running very late and/or your playing time will be cut. And that the sound will likely suck.
 
Aside from drums you should be able to pull that off if the soundman is pro.
Even still, you might get lucky and have the band before you be the noobs who hang out on stage very slooooowly packing their crap up while they revel in their new-found rock stardom.
But regardless, drums are the deal breaker and things will almost invariably start running late unless every band is comprised of seasoned and responsible pros (and adults).
 
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I've done it several times with 15 minute turnaround. Hopefully the band before you will be in a rush to get out if your way. If not, you simply have to get on stage anyway. If the bass player is taking his/her time getting off stage, and there's only one outlet, you have to unplug them and plug in amd get ready even if it pisses them off. You have no choice but to be in a rush whether they are or not.
 
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Contingency: Bass in hand, start the show with the history of the bass since 1951 while the rest of the band gets ready.

15 minutes in the guttural-speaking countries of Europe is 15 minutes. If the previous band is from that culture, that gives you enough time.
 
I was once a young noobie player at one of these kinds of situations - it was actually a really big fest with some top names, but for some reason the thing was being run like amateur hour(which fit my level of experience at the time!). Outdoor show, one high up stage, no wings of any kind, just one set of narrow stairs off and on, 10-15 min planned in between acts. Our set ran over and to add insult to injury I was taking my sweet time packing up, talking to some girl, and the road manager for the next band(a way bigger band than us) took my bass head and threw it from the the stage about 25 feet. In retrospect I sorta don't blame him.
 
We are playing on a fairly big stage at the Fete de la Musique in Berlin next month. Just got our time slot and noticed they are only planning for 15 minutes set up time between bands. Cool, I think, so there must be a backline provided, and we can just plug in and go. Just got an email back that no, they cannot provide a backline. The tech guys will be in contact with us.

We are a seven piece band - drums, bass, guitar, key, vox, sax and trumpet. Am I too pessimistic in thinking there is no way in hell we can set up all our gear and be ready to go within 15 minutes, minus the time the previous band takes to tear down? Maybe they expect us to share a backline among the four bands that are playing, but it doesn't strike me as that kind of gig, and no effort has been made to connect the bands with each other. They also just told the bands to be there "15 minutes before your playtime".

Very curious to find out how they want this to work. :)

It's doable but you must figure out the essential items you need on stage and eliminate the rest. In other words some compromise may be necessary. Also before it's your time to set up, all gear should be made ready. You should essentially roll your amp on stage with as many of the cables in place as possible. If you use a pedal board bring that out next. Finally bring out your bass and stand and make all of the final connections. You should be done in less than 5 minutes.

Band members with the least gear should help those with more gear. For example a vocalist or two could help the drummer carry his set out on stage, help carry a keyboard, or bring out the guitarists pedal board. Figure out how to make it work in advance, and consider doing a dry run.

Another possibility is to run off the monitors. Sometimes you get burned doing this, because running ampless takes most of the control you have over your stage volume and gives it to someone else.

Here is my sad little story:

Years ago, I played a huge festival stage in Brussels. I decided to run off my monitor, so I could help everyone else. I before I made the decisions, I called the sound company to make sure the equipment was suitable. The monitors were of the quality where it could have worked really well. I had a single 15 horn high-end JBL for my monitor. I brought out my bass on a stand and plugged into the DI. Then I went and helped other members with their gear. We got everything setup in plenty of time to do a monitor check.

During sound check, the monitor tech kept asking to put a bunch of stuff in the drum fills. I believe they had four double 15 subs along with a pair of 15 horn JBLs. We didn't normally use drum fills. Instead our drummer used a headphone amp with a monitor feed and his metronome.

At the end of soundcheck, my bass was dialed in and sounding nice, and there was a nice balanced mix on stage. I normally run my volume wide open, but for this gig I dialed it back a bit so I could turn up if necessary during the show.

As soon as we started playing the monitor tech cranked up the drum fills to the point where the bass drum was feeding back through them. Every time the bass drum hit, a low G rang out and totally covered up the sound of my bass, even though I was standing a significant distance from the drum set. I cranked the volume on my bass, but it was nowhere near enough. I tried to get the monitor tech's attention, but he ignored me. It was obvious he was doing this intentionally to serve his own desires, rather than giving us what we needed to be successful. He was having a blast and grooving to the beat with a big smile on is face.

The estimated audience for the gig was 10K. It should have been one of the best gigs of my life, but I remember it as one of the worst. The drummer enjoyed it immensely though.

At the end of our show, roll/carry your gear off as quickly as possible so the next band can get in place. The other band will be trying to setup while you are doing this. Tear down and pack off stage.

Good Luck!
 
I've done a couple of outdoor festivals with quick turn arounds. They had two rolling drum risers so the drummer could set up backstage and they just rotated them out. It was pretty nice. I wasn't too worried about my stuff... it took longer to find the XLR cable for my DI than it did for me to get set up. When we finished I just put my cab on the edge of the drum riser and offstage it went.
 
It is doable and all the previous suggestions will help. I will also add if you can talk to the other bands bass players and/or the engineer prior it may help?

I did a charity gig in a "throw" together band a few years back that had 6 bands. We were 4th on the bill (great cause and raised a lot of money as it was an expensive ticket.) Before the show date I was told who had volunteered to be the engineer and knew him (not well, but had worked with him before years ago) and let him know I was able to provide a bass amp to everyone to use as the back line all evening. He agreed knowing what it was and the decision was made and all the bass players were advised. Every bass player was very happy not having the bring and move theirs. If you can get any of the bands to agree to share gear, it will help on change over and as others said, be ready and be prepared that it may go overtime.
 
It's only one stage, that much I know. She said the tech guys would reach out to the bands later this week. I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now. :D

If they don't "reach out to you" (I hate that phrase) reach out to them. You really need to know the score before you go in.
 
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