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1960 Fender Precision finish

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by bgmttt, Mar 14, 2014.

  1. bgmttt


    Feb 13, 2008

    I bought this bass as а body refin, so I'm pretty sure that the finish of the body is not original. I want to refin the body, but I need some confirmation from more experienced people before doing that. Can anyone give me courage?

    Here are many hi-res photos of the body:

    Thanks so much for your help.
  2. Tonegasm


    Mar 22, 2010
    That does not look original at all.
  3. looks like ash.

    Agree that it's not original. How do you know it's 1960?

  4. gary m

    gary m

    Jan 17, 2011
    Mid -Atlantic
    Mmm, no...that's not a '60. Wood grain is all wrong, as said before...looks a bit like ash or possibly mahogany (??). I didn't see a datestamp on the neck, either, though that appears to have some serious mileage on it. Could be that the neck is actually older than the body, but without numbers it's difficult to tell. Hardware seems age appropriate, but that could have been transferred from another body as well. It just doesn't add up, IMO.

    What kind of info did the seller give you about this?
  5. bgmttt


    Feb 13, 2008
    I bought this bass from bass shop in USA who own good reputation even here on talkbass. I trusted the seller who told me the bass is all original except the body finish. I believe the body is alder. I watched many photos before buy it and everything seems OK.
  6. gary m

    gary m

    Jan 17, 2011
    Mid -Atlantic
    Any numbers at all for reference? Neckplate, anything?
  7. Can't unsee that sunburst...
  8. interp

    interp Supporting Member

    Apr 14, 2005
    Garmisch, Germany
    Looks like alder to me. No way is it mahogany, although the current color makes it look that way. I'd like to see it stripped.
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  9. It's very possible that is mahogany IMO. Fender has been known to have made a small number of basses with mahogany bodies. The grain appears to have a similar fine porous texture as mahogany. If it was an original burst finish over mahogany, it would be extremely rare and valuable.
  10. The Bass Clef

    The Bass Clef Formerly "thebrian" Gold Supporting Member

    Nov 17, 2010
    Looks more like a '61 to me (because the decal has 2 pat.#s). The body looks original to me from the pics, even has the nail holes (done when the body was originally finished by Fender). But the finish isn't original, as the others have said. The grain does look a lot like ash, but it would be a lot more likely that it's alder that happens to look like ash, IMO.

    I say refin it! If you do a period correct color, it can only help it's value/desirability from here. BTW, if you do it 3 tone burst, the '60s and '61s had a much wider black border around the body than before and after those years.
  11. bgmttt


    Feb 13, 2008
    Thanks thebrian and all others!!! You are great!!!

    Just added more pics of the body and the neck plate here:
    As you can notice the wood of the body is very soft - the neck plate has entered into it. I don't know which wood is softer - alder or ash.
    I also noticed that the contour of the body on the left side to neck plate is oddly shaped.
    Does anyone has motivated arguments that the body is not original?
    Thanks again!
  12. Just that the grain doesn't look like alder - way too swishing grain for alder.

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  13. Definitely not an original finish. Even if it were a rare Fender finish, the finish would be faded compared to the pickguard area. Body does look original, although the contours were sounded down during the refinish. Looks like alder to me, but the grain was likely made more pronounced due to the refin technique. That's a very nice bass, congrats.
  14. sneha1965


    Nov 7, 2007
    I would recommend John Kallas for a period correct finish. This would be right up his alley.
  15. P. Aaron

    P. Aaron Supporting Member

    The body, from the pictures shown appears to be one piece. Which for any Fender would be rare if not impossible.

    Or, is this what folks meant by the 'slab' bass? I thought slab meant, no contours in the body?

    Otherwise, a one piece body is questionable.
  16. FrednBass


    Feb 24, 2012
    Don't know about being original or not, but it does look good
  17. If this is the ' 60 that Brian had @ Low End recently ( looks
  18. like the same color ) you can trust his opinion . He is literally the George Gruhn of bass . The color was new to me as well but looks great and makes this p even cooler . My birth year as well.
  19. 1000% Alder.
  20. st0n3


    Jul 7, 2012
    That is the router's hump.
    Correct feature