1x15 vs.4x10vs.2x10

[Stank56]

I'm in the minority but I love my 4-10 cab for classic rock.

 

[petrus61]

Get a head and a cab, not a combo. Combos usually feature design compromises. If you're still thinking Ampeg I'd go with the PF800 not the 500, but it ain't my money.

Agreed. I don't know if they're design flaws so much as they are dishonest power ratings. Usually the amp portion of the combo is capable of more than the speakers it comes with and won't operate to its fullest efficiency without an extension cab anyway. If you do get a combo, make sure that other speakers can be added to it in order to realize its full potential. Otherwise (and there are some pricey exceptions), its just a loud practice amp, IMO.

 

[dustoffdoc]

Quantity x Diameter, + depth of throw / frequency considerations. Bigger the number, & optimum freqs the better. Hand trucks, trolleys & castors to ease the pain....

 

[iualum]

I have found that within the same brand name, and model line, and cabinet size, a 115 is louder than a 210. Maybe not as punchy, but louder. 410s, which are bulkier and heavier, generally are louder still. If you are going to sometimes be playing outside without PA support, I think you need a minimum of two 115s or a 410. Personally I would do the two 115s. More flexibility and less load on your back per trip on load in and out.

As with other things mentioned, "punch" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with driver diameter.

 

[iualum]

Just get two of anything (2 X 10, 1 X 12, 1 X 15) and stack 'em. A combo with single driver and matching ext. cab will work just as well. Don't dwell on driver size.

Riis

Very generally a pretty valid point. Gotta say, if price isn't such an issue, I favor a "vertical" 410 (210 x 2) with quality 210s. Performance of similar 215s (or 115 x 2), but raised higher so the sound is closer to ear level allowing you to hear it better. Of course you can always elevate a 112 x 2 or even a 115 x 2.

 

[iualum]

Quantity x Diameter, + depth of throw / frequency considerations. Bigger the number, & optimum freqs the better. Hand trucks, trolleys & castors to ease the pain....

Yes, "depth of throw" = Xmax specification (the distance the driver moves), a higher # means more air movement. Hard if not impossible to ascertain this # w/"branded" boxes (as are all meaningful specs), but you can do it w/Greenboy, fEarful, LDS, etc...

 

[raventepes]

Where's the 212?

+1

Years ago, I'd only play on 10's or 15's. Then, I was introduced to 12's. It's a best of both worlds scenario. Tight, punchy, and plenty of thump!

Granted, you won't find one by Ampeg, but if you choose to go this route, GK, Aguilar, and Mesa Boogie cabs are a good place to start.

 

[CL400Peavey]

+1

Years ago, I'd only play on 10's or 15's. Then, I was introduced to 12's. It's a best of both worlds scenario. Tight, punchy, and plenty of thump!

Granted, you won't find one by Ampeg, but if you choose to go this route, GK, Aguilar, and Mesa Boogie cabs are a good place to start.

Ampeg makes a 212 now.

 

[Humbled]

I don't know much about arguing the theory of it all, but I'm a big fan of the GK 412 Neo now.

It is a very nice box.

 

[experimental bassist]

Ampeg makes a 212 now.

And a 112.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/ampeg-svt-112av-300w-1x12-bass-speaker-cabinet

 

[raventepes]

Awww...it's cute! It's about time Ampeg caught up to the trend. Now for Ashdown...

 

[NDpeppers]

2 1x15's

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

My preference (and what I actually use) 1 single 15 on the floor and a 2x10 on top of the 15. Best of both worlds.

 

[CL400Peavey]

My preference (and what I actually use) 1 single 15 on the floor and a 2x10 on top of the 15. Best of both worlds.

The 115 actually has better dispersion than a horizontal 210.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

The 115 actually has better dispersion than a horizontal 210.

That is half the reason for the 15 being on the floor. Unless you are playing on a concrete slab, the stage actually becomes part of your rig.

 

[Bass_Pounder]

My preference (and what I actually use) 1 single 15 on the floor and a 2x10 on top of the 15. Best of both worlds.

Best of what worlds ?

10's and 15's DON'T have a "sound". The size of the speaker tells you nothing more then it's diameter.

 

[CL400Peavey]

That is half the reason for the 15 being on the floor. Unless you are playing on a concrete slab, the stage actually becomes part of your rig.

So your goal is to have the mids die at floor level?

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

Best of what worlds ?

10's and 15's DON'T have a "sound". The size of the speaker tells you nothing more then it's diameter.

I could not disagree more. Every part of your rig from your fingers to the grill cloth affect the sound you make.

 

[Bass_Pounder]

I could not disagree more. Every part of your rig from your fingers to the grill cloth affect the sound you make.

You can disagree all you like, but you would still be wrong.

The tone of a cab is determined by the speakers T/S parameters combined with the cabs design. There are 10" subs, and 15's used for mids and guitar. Size tells you nothing.

 

[Gravedigger Dav]

So your goal is to have the mids die at floor level?

I guess we are not communicating. Because the 10s present better mids and highs, I want them up off the floor. The 15 is on the floor with no wheels or dollys to move the lows out better.