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2000w+ power amp suggestions?

#43
BassmanPaul said:
But again I ask how do you get 2600W out of a wall socket capable of only supplying approximately 1800W? The power out has to come in from somewhere.

Paul
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Power Station.jpg :bassist: :D
 
#45
i am not gonna quote all the garbage that evryone is saying and i don;t even know why i am defending myself really.

my guitarist is just fine, he has a modded 5150 that's 300w. our drummer plays a drumset that hangs just fine its a 70's acrylic ludwig with zildjain a class cymbals, he is plenty loud to hang. we like to be loud and i'll deal with the hearing loss if i live long enough to deal with it.

i didn't plan on having everything at maximum volume all the time, i am ********, but not too terribly ********. i just wanted to have the ability to get the volume i want with out stressing my equipment out and i figured something around 2000w would give me the room i wish for. my ampeg svt 4pro gives me the volume i desire on mono-bridge but it doesn;t hang timewise, we usually practice for 5-6 hours straight, multiple time a week. it gets hot and clips and gets quiet about 2/3 through practice.

i seriously just started learning about seperate power amps and pre-amps literally like 2 weeks ago. no need to get uppity about the fact that i didn;t know certain models drew different amps from the wall and whatever else people are harping on me about.

i appreciate the people who did point me in the right direction and recommended me different models to check out
 
#48
erik281 said:
searching for the words power amp doesn;t do much, sadly.

i am looking for a good power amp that is going to move at least 2000w comfortably. i was looking at the carvin power amps but was curious as to people's opinions on that brand or something comparable.

i am most likely going to buy a green 8x10 cab so it will handle what i am putting into it.

thanks a ton
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Erik, my man. Carvin power amps are shallow, so they are easy to mount into an 'amp head' sized rack w/ease. The be-loved CA9's are deep and tougher to carry around, and most don't have speak-ons. Most of the Carvins are all 1/4" and speak-on ready. Don't waste your time on the smaller ones. Bite the bullet and buy what I run. The DCM2500. 750 per channel at 4 ohms, 500 per at 8 ohms. Not all that much overkill, and will bring you to nirvana at will. Don't hestitate, just do it! Ask my old freind Mike Morgan, of Mike Morgan and the Crawl, from the dust of Texas. He'll tell you, there's no substitute for horsepower.
 
#49
Bob Lee (QSC) said:
Not necessarily. Unless he uses a very inefficient power amp (e.g., a class A), he'd probably only need a >15A circuit if he were doing high-power tests with continuous tones on a service or test bench.
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Still not sure how this would work?
The socket is rated 120v RMS @ 15A
1800w is the most coming out.
50% efficiency for typical class-ab is going to be 900W
If I recall, most makers are going to rate at 1khz for "burst" power. Maybe what we need is "bass" amp makers to rate at 80hz - something that matters to us? :)
 
#50
seamonkey said:
Still not sure how this would work?
The socket is rated 120v RMS @ 15A
1800w is the most coming out.
50% efficiency for typical class-ab is going to be 900W
If I recall, most makers are going to rate at 1khz for "burst" power. Maybe what we need is "bass" amp makers to rate at 80hz - something that matters to us? :)
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Then there's those of us whacky enough to use car amps hooked up to a DC converter that weighs as much as a fridge. :hiding:
 
#51
erik281 said:
i am not gonna quote all the garbage that evryone is saying and i don;t even know why i am defending myself really.

my guitarist is just fine, he has a modded 5150 that's 300w. our drummer plays a drumset that hangs just fine its a 70's acrylic ludwig with zildjain a class cymbals, he is plenty loud to hang. we like to be loud and i'll deal with the hearing loss if i live long enough to deal with it.

i didn't plan on having everything at maximum volume all the time, i am ********, but not too terribly ********. i just wanted to have the ability to get the volume i want with out stressing my equipment out and i figured something around 2000w would give me the room i wish for. my ampeg svt 4pro gives me the volume i desire on mono-bridge but it doesn;t hang timewise, we usually practice for 5-6 hours straight, multiple time a week. it gets hot and clips and gets quiet about 2/3 through practice.

i seriously just started learning about seperate power amps and pre-amps literally like 2 weeks ago. no need to get uppity about the fact that i didn;t know certain models drew different amps from the wall and whatever else people are harping on me about.

i appreciate the people who did point me in the right direction and recommended me different models to check out
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Erik the best thing you can do is try to learn the information you need to make a good judgemnet and do not pay any attention to the voltage subject with strict compliance to Technical Jargen, as well as let the Rude comments go on by in your quest to find what you need.

IMO 2,000 watts is hardly too much power unless it would be continuous but never is.

There are lots of amps out there that will get the job done there are a good deal of differences that seem minute at first that will make a difference. Read the heck out of this site and try to weed through some of the nonsense.

I have dished out as much nonsense as anyone so am I the Pot or the Kettle?:spit::D
 
#54
i am ********, but not too terribly ********. i just wanted to have the ability to get the volume i want with out stressing my equipment out and i figured something around 2000w would give me the room i wish for
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Why stop at 2,000 watts?
I applaud the serious efforts of board members when trying to help those with outrageous requests, and in some cases, those who challenge even the best technical advice.

Sincere there is no mention of specific speaker cabinet type, impedence, drivers, etc. the best advice would be to buy the biggest name brand amp you can afford.

It's like putting a 2,000 horspeower engine in 1970 station wagon; you'll have loads of horsepower but you'll never get it to the ground.
 
#55
erik281 said:
but it doesn;t hang timewise, we usually practice for 5-6 hours straight, multiple time a week. it gets hot and clips and gets quiet about 2/3 through practice.
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Are you keeping the SVT 4 PRO in a rack of some sort? If it is overheating, the rack might be cutting off the air flow to properly cool it. Is the fan working at all? The amp should not be overheating. That amp is crazy loud when set right, what are your tone settings and what are cabinet are you hooked up to?
 
#56
Try putting a high volume fan on the amp. See if that helps.
Sounds like it needs service. I suggest that you try that before you drop your hard earned cash on something else.

Here's a link that may help: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=506640 "I want a monster amp!"

Also, custom ear phones are the way to save your hearing. It's hell having no high end and high pitched whine blasting you 24/7 that only you can hear.
 
#59
seamonkey said:
Still not sure how this would work?
The socket is rated 120v RMS @ 15A
1800w is the most coming out.
50% efficiency for typical class-ab is going to be 900W
If I recall, most makers are going to rate at 1khz for "burst" power. Maybe what we need is "bass" amp makers to rate at 80hz - something that matters to us? :)
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If you do continuous test tones, like for measuring full power over a frequency sweep, you'll need a much bigger AC circuit than you would for music, voice, etc., which have dynamics. On a service bench, for example, you might need 30A or more to fully test out an amp made to run on a 15A outlet.
 

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