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2017 Gibson EB redesign

Why can't Gibbo just do improvements to its existing designs? Like the SG Bass or EB-3, it could use lighter weight tuners by Hipshot, the Hipshot Gibson Bridge and put the Mudbucker at the Bridge instead of the neck and the Minibucker at the neck. Maybe extend the upper horn just a bit to balance the head better and/or make the head smaller with the same shape.

Thunderbird: Same bridge and tuner changes as above, but move the bridge to the end of the body, set the fretboard further into the body and deepen the lower cutaway.

And bring back the ES style bass with the above, but with Darkstars and more of the CS smaller profile guitar body style.
 
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In 2 years these will be on clearance for $499.99.

Totally uninspired design.

I think you nailed it. It's an unknown quantity and nobody wants to pay retail for that. Sales will be sluggish at best for a couple years culminating in a last-gasp blow-out @ $499. This will be followed by a flurry of "I pulled the trigger" and "NBD" threads as we clear the shelves. Once the supply is exhausted and model is discontinued, people will lament the passing of another great Gibson bass.

Riis
 
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We would be blessed if Gibson came out with a bass this cool again!

I owned one of these. Sold it when I quit playing. Wish I hadn't. Wish I had it back. Would buy another if offered again. GREAT bass!
 
What gets me is they put a new model out, and don't even give it time to make a dent and get noticed - if it's not a huge immediate success, they bail on it and move on to the next attempt. I think the previous body style had a better chance at becoming popular had they stuck with it a while longer. They have 0 confidence in their own models, abandoning them before even giving them a chance.

Your right---but I'm no marketing genius---- I'm just a bass player.
 
When it comes to making basses. Every company cannot win for losing.

I like the burst version better aesthetically. It seems to blend better with the rosewood.
Kinda wish it was a reverse headstock or a 2+2

I'd still sit down with one and give it a run.

My thoughts too. I know I'll want to try one. Assuming you can find one in a store around where I am.

I tried to find an EB and a Fender Dimension. GC just kept saying: "We're expecting them in shortly." Everbody else said they weren't planning on getting any in, but they could order one for me if I wanted to buy one…
 
Yup. That's why they put active electronics in the Victory Artist, series/parallel switching in the passive Victory and Victory Custom, and used a totally unique pickup design for all three models in the series. And then threw in a 24-fret neck just for good measure - purely to make it completely indistinguishable from a PBass. ;)

Gibson went on record saying they wanted the playability to be as close to a Fender as possible. Because "Fender was doing it right" in that regard. That's not anywhere near the same thing as them "specifically designing it" to be as close to a PBass as possible.

The Victories were far closer to the TBird in looks, concept, and sound than they ever were to any Fender.

And the Victories weighed as much as a Lincoln Town Car. Or a Peavey T-40.
 
And the Victories weighed as much as a Lincoln Town Car. Or a Peavey T-40.

Never owned a Lincoln. But I do have a T-40. The Peavey is a lot heavier. And I've played late '70s/early '80s JBs that were heavier too.

It's true there were some very heavy Victories. But most were well within the usual weight range of basses for that period.
 
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I think you nailed it. It's an unknown quantity and nobody wants to pay retail for that. Sales will be sluggish at best for a couple years culminating in a last-gasp blow-out @ $499. This will be followed by a flurry of "I pulled the trigger" and "NBD" threads as we clear the shelves. Once the supply is exhausted and model is discontinued, people will lament the passing of another great Gibson bass.

Riis
As they are lamenting the passing of the previous model in this thread. Those got slagged roundly when they came out. Now they are iconic or something. I'm amused by the turnaround. I'm also amused by the neck dive drumbeat.
 
As they are lamenting the passing of the previous model in this thread. Those got slagged roundly when they came out. Now they are iconic or something. I'm amused by the turnaround. I'm also amused by the neck dive drumbeat.
I actually really liked the EB from day 1. I thought they were cool basses with a great rock tone and a decent price.