210 or 112???

[Low_Ryder]

I need to know from someone with experience: will a 210, or a 112, be loud enough for when I play with a full band.

There will be drummer, couple acoustic guitars, keyboards, and sax and trumpet. Maybe congas too. We're not crazy loud.

The amp/cab in question is narrowed down pretty strongly to a GB shuttle 6.0 and avatar cab. (either 210 or 112).

What say you all, TB?!?

 

[Mulebagger]

Depends on a lot, but I'd pick up a 210.

 

[Darth Handsome]

Not all cabinets of the same speaker size are created equal. I'd do some shopping & use your ears.

 

[Horny Toad]

Knowing nothing about which cabs you're considering, I'd suggest the cab with greater cone area, which would be the 210.

 

[Low_Ryder]

So checking out cabs is basically not an option. I would spend half the price of one just to drive around to places that have them.

I'll trust the good reviews I've read about the Avatars. But is a 210 going to be much louder than a 112, all else being equal? And will it have the right tone ( in general) to cut through a wide range of instruments? ( or at least better than a 112)? The 112 is cheaper, a real consideration for me.

Thanks again.

 

[Joe Louvar]

I need to know from someone with experience: will a 210, or a 112, be loud enough for when I play with a full band.

There will be drummer, couple acoustic guitars, keyboards, and sax and trumpet. Maybe congas too. We're not crazy loud.

The amp/cab in question is narrowed down pretty strongly to a GB shuttle 6.0 and avatar cab. (either 210 or 112).

What say you all, TB?!?

Get an 8ohm 112 and if you need more volume add a second incidental matching 112.

 

[Low_Ryder]

Whats the biggest thing that gives volume? Amp power? Cone area? Something else?

So many questions.....

 

[Horny Toad]

Whats the biggest thing that gives volume? Amp power? Cone area? Something else?

So many questions.....

Between amp power and cone area? Cone area, definitely.

 

[Low_Ryder]

Between amp power and cone area? Cone area, definitely.

Good to know.

 

[Lo-E]

Cone area is going to be a bigger deciding factor than amp power in most cases. If you really need a one-cabinet solution, then I suspect you'd be better off with the 210.

A 112 can still get plenty loud, but with a horn band - even at reasonable volumes - you may have trouble competing with an Avatar 112.

As Joe Louvar suggested, you could always have a go with the single 112 for now, money being tight, and then add a second if you need it when you have a little more cash at your disposal.

 

[waleross]

Either a 210 or may I be so bold a "212"...............

 

[basscooker]

i like the one cab/two cab idea best, too. are you on four, five or six strings (or 12?)? this will help with suggestions on which cabs to use, once you decide on what config you want to use. some are better than others for extended range basses. also how portable do you need to be? is its primary function for nearfield or is going to support the room at gigs?

 

[RickenBoogie]

The more spkrs you use, the easier it is to get loud. With small cabs like 210's and 112's, it's always best to use 2 of them.

 

[Low_Ryder]

I like all the input I have seen. Thanks so much everyone.

I play a 4-string, and even though I'm (hopefully) early in my playing development, I don't think I'll tread into the extreme deep end. Mostly this cab would support the whole room, as most all of my playing is "jamming out" or else a small gig with vocals and acoustic guitar (amped, probably with a PA). The big group does (or did, we actually haven't played in a while) get cool gigs like pig roasts and barn parties! Probably no PA support there either.

That's my situation.

 

[esa372]

If you can only have one of the two cabs you mentioned, I'd say go with the 210... and stand it vertically, with a slight backward tilt.

Here's a chart indicating cone area:

 

[cchorney]

Here's a chart indicating cone area:

Nice chart! I was about to start calculating cone area when I saw your post and thought "whew, now I don't have to!".

OP, maybe you should look at a 1x15 and please don't respond with "15's are too boomy".

 

[Russell L]

I got a 115, then another for the big gigs.

 

[NWB]

In very general terms, I've found myself buried by the drummer using a 112 and just enough volume using a 210 (not much to spare though). Unless it's an expensive Super 12 cab, I'd definitely go with the 210 out of those two.

Or shop craiglist for a decent used 410.

 

[NWB]

I like all the input I have seen. Thanks so much everyone.

I play a 4-string, and even though I'm (hopefully) early in my playing development, I don't think I'll tread into the extreme deep end. Mostly this cab would support the whole room, as most all of my playing is "jamming out" or else a small gig with vocals and acoustic guitar (amped, probably with a PA). The big group does (or did, we actually haven't played in a while) get cool gigs like pig roasts and barn parties! Probably no PA support there either.

That's my situation.

Sounds like a good thread topic; "What's the best cab for a pig roast?"

 

[cchorney]

Being the proud owner of a 115, a 210 and a 215, I can tell you that with a 300 watt amp I approach my speaker limits on the 210 sooner than on the 115. My 300 watt amp doesn't have the power to overpower my 215 but its more to schlep.

Maybe get a 115 and a second 115 for larger spaces, or if you really want the 210 look, get a 210 and plan on pushing it hard during spirited songs, or always using a second 210 cab.

If you're in the range of 300+ watts, with a 112, 115 or 210 you'll hit the limits of your cab before you hit the limits of your amp.