May I ask what you disliked about the EQD? My only other contender right now, besides the LBB and EQD is the SFX Micro Boost. I have the Micro EQ already, but use it further up in my chain, and it is also an amazing clean boost with some eq. Just probably does not have the same headroom as the LBB or the MicroBoost. The Bajo Mos is very clean and nice. I just think it's a bit too big for my needs. The side Jacks and side power jack are just killing me with the Bajo Mos.
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3Leaf Audio Club - Episode 2
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May I ask what you disliked about the EQD? My only other contender right now, besides the LBB and EQD is the SFX Micro Boost. I have the Micro EQ already, but use it further up in my chain, and it is also an amazing clean boost with some eq. Just probably does not have the same headroom as the LBB or the MicroBoost. The Bajo Mos is very clean and nice. I just think it's a bit too big for my needs. The side Jacks and side power jack are just killing me with the Bajo Mos.
Used my LBB last night at rehearsal on my Sigma AEB... it helped level match and the low freq of the bass control balanced the mid hump to make it sound nice and full. 
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The Tonejob, to me, never sent a mid signal to the front of house that didn't come out like junk through 18" PA speakers. 95% of my gear preferences are about how it sounds through a decent PA with an average sound guy. If I can't use it easily and successfully on a gig, I can't use it (almost) period.
Additionally, the ToneJob boasts a 500% boost. I really didn't think that it opened up with a clarity until it was boosting louder than I wanted it to.
One really nice thing about the LBB is that the EQ is boost-only. The fine tuning you can accomplish is so much nicer and the EQ points are quite nice. I never really find myself cutting EQ on a boost/cut, to be honest.
Additionally, the ToneJob boasts a 500% boost. I really didn't think that it opened up with a clarity until it was boosting louder than I wanted it to.
One really nice thing about the LBB is that the EQ is boost-only. The fine tuning you can accomplish is so much nicer and the EQ points are quite nice. I never really find myself cutting EQ on a boost/cut, to be honest.
Yeah, the boost/cut is not what appealed to me in the ToneJob, just the mids. But, your description kind of kills it for me.
I measured it yet again and I think the space saving will be enough. I will sleep on it
No experience with the Bajo Mos, EQD or SFX, but I can say the boost from the LBB when set flat is as clean to me as my dry signal. I also like the very useful bass and treble boosts. EQ points work especially well when playing my Precision (TI flats). I'd describe it as just the extra tone control I want without making my passive bass with flats sound like an active bass wearing rounds. I've been using the LBB as an always-on EQ with slight boost, along with the Cali76, when playing my Precision, and as an occasional slam-the-overdrive boost when playing my Stingray (DR Sunbeams).
Yeah, that sounds good.I have always liked to have a clean boost for different preamps. But, now, with the 6176, it get amazing sounds with boost. If I eq just a bit, I get tones that are even better. The issue is that I want to eq for other stuff as well. Yeah, the LBB sounds perfect.
A fun tidbit since we're talking boosts in preamps and all...I said in the BF review that I would love to put the guts of a LBB in a bass as a preamp and see what happened. When that review got posted to the 3Leaf Facebook page, Spencer pointed out that idea might come to fruition in the near future...
Had a very brief run with the LBB last night. As others have said, it's a very clean boost with eq flat. A little bass, and a little of the high eq makes a mighty slap sound with my Roscoe.
Seriously - i have no use for a boost pedal, and now you're all making me try to think up ways i could use it. Definition of GAS!
Question: is the lack of a mid control limiting at all here, or is it something that's not really needed practically speaking? I realize you could cut mids by boosting bass and treble and cutting gain below unity, but there's no similar "virtual" mid boost option.
(I only ask this because of my experience struggling with a SansAmp Bass Driver for a while; I would have difficulty making it cut through the mix until I compensated by "boosting" mids (cutting bass and treble) to a substantial degree... I realize the LBB serves a different purpose than a BDDI, but sometimes I feel at least some mid control on tap can help cut through a mix as necessary.)
Please tell me my concerns are unfounded... feed my GAS!
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I love a scooped sound, so it's perfect for me. That being said, it's not a scooped sound unless you want it.
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I often find that wanton mid-boost, unless you have the option to dial in the frequency or separate low and hi mid controls, can be a one way ticket to a muddy sound through the PA, as opposed to cutting through it.
While I really do like the idea of the LBB making a passive bass better by just being left on all the time, I found that it had a VERY special use on an active bass to just sort of poke your head up when necessary. To THAT end, this pedal owes its good name to the treble knob/switch. Combining that with the clean boost is THE way to poke your bass forward in a FOH mix to get a lick to be heard or in a breakdown. It just so happens that the bass knob is absolutely killer if you want to crunch a little harder without too much "womp".
Maybe it's just me but the bass freq is not muddy at all, in fact it seems to add some tight full punch to my signal. I don't think a dedicated mid freq is needed because it doesn't sound scooped to me. Mids are still present and in the forefront in my setup, I don't have any addition eq options after the lbb too. Just a passive pbass and flats.
Yes yes and yes. I love the tone of my bass. I have a Roscoe with Bart's. I love the mid punch. My amp is a clear window. I'm not looking for more eq on my pedalboard.
This is where the LBB shines. With the eq flat it's clean as can be. Your input, just louder. The eq is more subtle than I expected, and voiced just right. You can add some bass - more body without tubbiness. The high eq, with switch on high, gives nice air and sparkle. They work for me for my slap sound beautifully. The switch on low is more in your face, if you need it.
I have other pedals for grit. This one just lifts my whole sound out and above when needed. The same setting I've tried for slap makes harmonics ring. I can't wait to try this in a live setting. Gotta get my whole board wired up for next week's gigs.
Kudos to the team! For a pedal that's designed for such a prosaic job, this is a gem.
When I do more "traditional" gigs in town in Nashville (aka country), I've been taking out a tuner, the Darkglass VMT and the LBB. That's a really nice interaction. MAYBE even a bit nicer than the Vintage Deluxe's interaction between the drive circuit and the EQ.
I was about to post exactly the same thing, the LBB and VMT create a really transparent OD, and when you switch off the LBB the VMT really has some bite (running much more drive than I used too) the LBB mellows the drive and makes it more transparent.
Was going to get a VMT delux, but no need now...
