Thanks for being helpful. Casey mentioned that he feels the sub soloed is quieter than the mkii, so I was wondering if it is at about the same level as an OC2.
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3Leaf Audio Octabvre MK III
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For my purposes it gets close enough to the OC-2 vibe, and since it can boost passed unity it’s far more useful.
It gets close . Depends on what I’m doing. I still use the oc-2 over the 3leaf for certain sounds and vise versa . Both great sounding pedals
I got to try mine at a gig and will gush that it certainly slams the subs and my worries over the close switches was unfounded. I have a Mark II and one of the cool things I like about the Mk. III is being able to hit both switches at the same time. It's not easy to do with the Mark II.
My experience was all on gig, and so I don't have sub level comparisons between the two, but the Mark III sounds like the Mark II and Mini I have/had.
As Casey stated, apples and oranges between this and the Boss, but as 3 Leaf goes, this is a "Mark II w/ Tim" in a small enclosure and I'll gush over that alone. It is great, worth the wait and price, and the small size and switch proximity found me using it in different ways than I have used the earlier versions of this pedal.
My experience was all on gig, and so I don't have sub level comparisons between the two, but the Mark III sounds like the Mark II and Mini I have/had.
As Casey stated, apples and oranges between this and the Boss, but as 3 Leaf goes, this is a "Mark II w/ Tim" in a small enclosure and I'll gush over that alone. It is great, worth the wait and price, and the small size and switch proximity found me using it in different ways than I have used the earlier versions of this pedal.
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As far as graphic design goes, this version is definitely my favorite. 3 Leaf is killing it. I hope I can play one soon.
Yeah, people do have to remember that changes in version (which this basically is) usually don't change direction, but just improve how you get there. If it had oct+ and blends ect. it would really be a different pedal altogether. The post with the dry out/up sw photo really derailed the expectations and idea of the mk3 I think.
I'm sure for some it did, but for me, who keeps separate boards for separate gigs, it was nice to be able to add the Octabvre with solo sub to my small metro board. I tried the mini Octabvre, but had become too accustomed to switching to the sub in pad-heavy sections of songs. So, this was a HUGE game changer for me, even though it is not moving the design or concept into a new feature set.
I compared the MK3 agaisnt the MK2 late last night..
I'm still a little confused to the function of this sub, is it designed to only engage when the octave (red) section is on? And if so what is the advantage of turning it off and on while the octave is off, to prepare the pedal for octave plus sub or vice versa? Ever since I got the mk2 I've been puzzled, even thought something was wrong. I would assume the sub would run "solo" like I hear others mention, just by itself. But anyway, I put them both in my signal, matched (audibly) what I thought were the same settings and found a few differences. I am in no way a veteran to this circuit, so I could be completely off but this is what I found. The 3 seems to definitly track better, and pick up to the sub low A notes. The 2 starts to die out at that point, flip back and forth (which is noted everywhere with octaves) when the 3 went all the way down to low E. Now I did have my volumn all the way up, Jazz bass 100% faded to neck PU to get this, its possible cranked the other way but you have to be easy on it. The MK3 seems ballsier and the sub almost rougher, matched up settings side by side, the output seems to have more range. The tone seems to have more range as well, in both directions, but not much. Now for some reason with Tim on and off, tone all the way counterclockwise, the MK2 seems smoother, even though the notes aren't as defined (or not even there) below A. I dont know if it's because the lack of this fuller range, or what, but I was able to dig in a little more and add my normal dynamic opposed to more tiptoeing with the MK3. I had someone ask if the sub had more output on either model, with settings matched (which could possibly not be right due to this difference in range) the output sounds the same, and in waveform looks the same in DAW. The boost of both channels did seem to have a little more headroom on the MK3 as well, which is kind of hard to compare with the fading system on the MK2.
I'm sure I'll find more things to say, I enjoyed playing both, still puzzled about the sub operation, I didn't just throw the MK2 to the classifieds like I thought I would, yet... but I like them. The new ones construction seems indestructible, very well built, design is spot on, graphics evenly applied and look to hold up better that the 3leafs in the past, pots super solid and bypass is quiet, on a side note I have my SVD back, and love it
It was 1am when I stopped or I would have posted clips, it was too late to render/upload ect
I'm still a little confused to the function of this sub, is it designed to only engage when the octave (red) section is on? And if so what is the advantage of turning it off and on while the octave is off, to prepare the pedal for octave plus sub or vice versa? Ever since I got the mk2 I've been puzzled, even thought something was wrong. I would assume the sub would run "solo" like I hear others mention, just by itself. But anyway, I put them both in my signal, matched (audibly) what I thought were the same settings and found a few differences. I am in no way a veteran to this circuit, so I could be completely off but this is what I found. The 3 seems to definitly track better, and pick up to the sub low A notes. The 2 starts to die out at that point, flip back and forth (which is noted everywhere with octaves) when the 3 went all the way down to low E. Now I did have my volumn all the way up, Jazz bass 100% faded to neck PU to get this, its possible cranked the other way but you have to be easy on it. The MK3 seems ballsier and the sub almost rougher, matched up settings side by side, the output seems to have more range. The tone seems to have more range as well, in both directions, but not much. Now for some reason with Tim on and off, tone all the way counterclockwise, the MK2 seems smoother, even though the notes aren't as defined (or not even there) below A. I dont know if it's because the lack of this fuller range, or what, but I was able to dig in a little more and add my normal dynamic opposed to more tiptoeing with the MK3. I had someone ask if the sub had more output on either model, with settings matched (which could possibly not be right due to this difference in range) the output sounds the same, and in waveform looks the same in DAW. The boost of both channels did seem to have a little more headroom on the MK3 as well, which is kind of hard to compare with the fading system on the MK2.
I'm sure I'll find more things to say, I enjoyed playing both, still puzzled about the sub operation, I didn't just throw the MK2 to the classifieds like I thought I would, yet... but I like them. The new ones construction seems indestructible, very well built, design is spot on, graphics evenly applied and look to hold up better that the 3leafs in the past, pots super solid and bypass is quiet, on a side note I have my SVD back, and love it
It was 1am when I stopped or I would have posted clips, it was too late to render/upload ect
The 2nd switch just kills the dry signal. So it doesn't technically "do" anything while the pedal is in bypass. If you have the 2nd switch engaged, then when the pedal is turned on it'll already be in sub-only. I use it that way all the time personally. If the 2nd switch is off, then it'll go to the mixed dry/sub signal.
Ok, (assuming we're generally talk about the mk2 and the root of the mk3) the Volume is overall master, the Mix is Dry/Wet, the Tone really fades between the two octave "models" OC2/other, and the Sub Volume just adjusts volume of the sub channel correct? OK, assuming that's correct, the first stomp turns on everything BUT the SUB, activate the Sub stomp when Bypass is off, and the ONLY thing running is the Sub channel? or is the Sub channel also mixed in with at least the octave channel, not the dry but the other. The way I'm trying to visualize this (and me using a Synth Voice Delux too much may be to blame) is, there is 3 channels - Dry, Octave, Sub - and you can either have Dry & Octave ON, OR Octave & Sub on (or if I'm wrong above, only Sub)
So if I'm playing with the pedal on, Sub off, and activate sub, the dry cuts out but the octave stays along with the sub? Or is it just a sub generated off my bass signal
Ok, what's confused me it the Sub, when on, seems to be the new master. I wasn't getting much response from the Tone while the Sub was on, I can see now with the envelope that somethings happening, still with the octave channel.
So, Pedal ON = Dry and Octave, Volume is master Sub ON = Octave and Sub, Sub is master
There are 3 "modes" on this pedal.
1. Off (bypassed)
2. Dry + Octave (2nd switch off)
3. Octave only (2nd switch on)
There aren't 2 voices on the Octabvre pedals. Octave and Sub are the same thing in this case, which might be where your confusion lies.
Yes, on the MKI and MKII versions the Volume and the Sub Volume work independently depending on if the Sub switch is active or not. It's one or the other, they do not affect each other.
On the MKIII, when the Sub switch is on, the smaller Sub knob is active and the Octave knob above it (and technically the clean knob) do nothing.
The tone knob only affects the octave down signal, regardless of which mode you're using. It does not affect the dry signal.
Ok, I was getting to the MK3, so with everything on the Sub control and Tone would be the only thing running (obviously the Tim across the board is always active too), ok makes more sense - thankyou. At first before I got any of them I was hoping the sub was independent and just added when you want, but could also remain on/off if the other circuit was bypassed
