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4 string bass players

Technically, you can't hit the lower register in standard tuning (the low B, C, C#, D, D#). Not that you NEED to, but its not possible on a four stringer in standard. Also, If you're into fills and junk, the low B opens more chordal and scale configuraitons.

Again...technically speaking

This is exactly what I don't like IMO!
Especially "booming" the low notes...just my opinion.
It is overdone WAY more than done tastefully from my perspective.
 
I dunno. I just bought a five-stringer this year and am really enjoying having that B-string. With just one hand position, I can play over almost two octaves. Having that fifth string makes for much easier fingerings and enables me to avoid having to use open strings. I just love the rumble of an open B string. So now I have an Ibanez GSR200 anxiously waiting to be defretted.

I have a defretted ibby, as well.:p
 
Some bassists I've met say "A bass is a bass", while some are hardcore four-strings-only or 5.

I say anyone should be able to play whatever they like. As long as you're having fun!

Yep! Far be it from me to tell anyone what to play. I, myself, have "sausage fingers" and have not found a comfy neck on a fiver, yet. I can't even get used to a p-bass after years of thin necks. Hats off to extended range bassists, though:D
 
i play 4 string. Im not a "jaco just need 4.." guy. But when i play the 5 string of a 5 string bass i feel like Fieldy of Korn is on stage. That bassy-boomy extra register you get with the 5th just dont match with the style i play, mostly jazz, funk... And i feel more comfortable to play the upper register of the 5th string with the 4th....
 
I started out on a 4, then got envious of the low B in some recordings, like 311, and Incubus at the time. Some players can use the low B tastefully, and it sounds great.

So I got a 5 string, then a 6. I found you could really play across the neck more, and I could really see the benifits. Especially for when reading and playing, because you can use less position shifts.

I had some bad GAS for a Jazz Bass, so I found a sweet one. Now I'm back to a 4 and love it. I tune it DGCF, so I still have the extended range. When a song absolutely calls for standard tuning, I'll throw the capo on. Screw it.

They are all good, but 4 strings have some cool mojo.
 
I don't get the "well all these other players use a 4-string so I'm in good company."

Feh - I'm not anyone else. That argument only holds water if you think about playing instead of actually doing it. When the downbeat hits the rest of the band and the audience don't care who's "company I'm in."

I can see why long time 4-string players stick there. 5-string is a different mindset and approach - *if* you actually incorporate the B into your playing. A lot of guys don't - they use it as a thumbrest and then whack some über low notes. If that works for you, fine. That doesn't really work for me.

I recently tried (again) to pick up a 4 after 11 years on nothing but 5-strings (was a 4-string player before that). I can "relearn" to play the 4, but then I am messed up on the 5. I know that many/most don't have this problem, but I do. The B-string is totally incorporated into my approach to the instrument. Due to a number of factors (both desired tone/attack and physical limitations), I don't spend a lot of time down at the nut. Because of the way I pluck, I want a fatter note. And due to tendonitis nipping at many joints, I don't want to be doing extended reaches to the nut a lot. With a bass with a great B-string (eg my Roscoes), I can play F on the 6th fret and get a great tone. And while staying in that position I have about 2 octaves range without having to shift position. I tend to favor a vertical approach to playing, especially if I'm sight-reading something.

That said I still like the simplicity of 4-strings, not having to worry about damping the B when playing up the neck or slapping/chording, and being forced to rethink my playing can be healthy. But for me once I get in a 4-mindset, when I grab a 5 I have to totally recalibrate. Ends up being too much thinking...that's the last thing I want to have to do. So I'm back to just 5 strings. Frankly the damping and slapping/chording can be addressed by technique so that is just time in the practice chair (or sofa).

Playing a 5 and staying a little up the neck also gives you a "short scale equivalent" bass and all of those benefits (ease of playing, etc). And you also have extended range on both ends (low and high) when you want it. I find it to be an ideal compromise for the music that I play and how my approach has evolved. But everyone has their own needs and has to find their own way. While looking at other people's experiences is valuable, I don't think that playing a particular instrument because some famous guy does really will end up getting you the most benefit for your playing needs unless you're just playing for fun in your house. In that case, play whatever makes you happy. But if you're gigging you have a responsibility to the band, the audience, and the music. So you need to figure out what works best *for you* and execute with it.
 
I started playing bass in 1970 and never gave any thought to owning a 5 string bass until I joined my churches music team in September of 2009. No one asked me to buy one at all, but upon realizing how many worship songs did use a 5 string bass.....I felt like I was missing out on something. So I got one in December of 2009 and I love it. There's something about hitting those low notes at the right time, especially if a song ends on a low D, C or B. So I use my 5 string when I play at church.

But I still love my 4 string basses as well. Always will.

I think it works well for gospel, r&b, and nujazz type stuff. As I said earlier, though my main axe is a four, I bust out the fiver every now and again for the heck of it.


+1
 
Usually Marcus Miller and Victor Wooten top the list. If you listen to them a lot, there's a good amount of 5er use here and there.

Actually my latest flirtation with a 4 was mostly driven by recent viewings of Wooten's DVDs. But the reality is that I'm not him, and I have different gigs than he does. If he were sitting in on my gigs, I'd carry a 4-string for him to use :p

oh, but on said DVDs, Anthony Wellington is playing a 5 the whole time :D
 
Am I the only person who would rather just continue playing my 4 string even though I own a 5 string? I have owned 3 five string basses and always have felt this way. I have only had my latest 5 string a month ( Warwick custom shop 2006 corvette) and I am already trying to trade it on craigslist for a 4 string. Is there anyone else who just loves their 4 string?

nope not me ... I sold all my 4s and I don't miss them.
 
Usually Marcus Miller and Victor Wooten top the list. If you listen to them a lot, there's a good amount of 5er use here and there.

At summer NAMM 2010 in Nashville, Victor Wooten addressed the 4- or 5-string question the best I've ever heard it.

Victor asked the crowd: "I play a four string. Why?"

Of about 10 answers, Victor chose one as correct: "Because that's what you're most comfortable with."

I played 4-string for 35 years before getting my first fiver. Now I play mostly my Lakland 55-94. I still have fours in the stable, but the Lakland gets taken out most.

Besides, every fiver comes with a built in 4-string.:D
 
I confess I don't go with the "on a five you can play without changing position so much" thing. On a five string, if I gotta play, say, a low F#, I'm playing it on second fret E string rather than 7th fret on the low B every single time I can. Maybe it's because I was taught that generally you should choose low position/higher string over higher position/lower string whenever possible as that's how you get more clarity and less mud.

Five string basses CAN be useful for the extra five notes. Any positional "advantages" are debatable imo.
 
I confess I don't go with the "on a five you can play without changing position so much" thing. On a five string, if I gotta play, say, a low F#, I'm playing it on second fret E string rather than 7th fret on the low B every single time I can. Maybe it's because I was taught that generally you should choose low position/higher string over higher position/lower string whenever possible as that's how you get more clarity and less mud.

Five string basses CAN be useful for the extra five notes. Any positional "advantages" are debatable imo.

Pretty much.
 

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