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4 vs. 5 String

embellisher said:
...The low notes are nice, but the main reason that I love 5 and 6 stringers is so that I can play in Eb, so I can play in E without using an open string, so I can play in F, F# and G without having to play in first position, so that I can do two octave runs(two and a half on a six) without shifting my hands, so that I can can grab a root and a tenth on the B and D, E and G, and on the six, A and C strings.

The low notes are cool too. But I spend 90% of my time between the fifth and fifteenth fret.

What he said! Try to play in Eb or Ab in a horn band without one. It's much easier for me.

And who was it that said all the money's below the 12th fret? I totally agree!


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embellisher said:
For me, and a lot of other 5 stringers with a low B, the B string is not primarily about the low notes, nor is it a thumbrest.

The low notes are nice, but the main reason that I love 5 and 6 stringers is so that I can play in Eb, so I can play in E without using an open string, so I can play in F, F# and G without having to play in first position, so that I can do two octave runs(two and a half on a six) without shifting my hands, so that I can can grab a root and a tenth on the B and D, E and G, and on the six, A and C strings.

The low notes are cool too. But I spend 90% of my time between the fifth and fifteenth fret.

Agreed. Whenever the piano/keyboard is the lead instrument (like at churches or blues and jazz gigs) Eb is one of the most common scales that a bassist will encounter.

The problem is that if you are descending down the scale, it sounds EXTREMELY silly to hit a high Eb or Db or whatever, because the direction of the playing had to be changed UNNATURALLY. This is very important to getting a nice sounding bass line. That's why the low B string is there.

As a side note, Ab is also very common, so there may be some use in the Low F# as well.
 
heath_the_great said:
i like both....but im yet to find a B string thats doesnt sound lame....a StingRay5 and my Jazz are probably the best sounding B strings ive played...well, closest to the sound i have in my head anyway, but im trying out some d'addario half rounds soon $120 for a 5 string set :hmm: :( ...but ive never liked the slapping of a b string :confused: i dunno what it is it just never seems to be right...anyway, i guess im just screwed in the head :ninja: :help:

You need to get out more. There are some basses out there with phenomenal B strings.
 
embellisher said:
For me, and a lot of other 5 stringers with a low B, the B string is not primarily about the low notes, nor is it a thumbrest.

The low notes are nice, but the main reason that I love 5 and 6 stringers is so that I can play in Eb, so I can play in E without using an open string, so I can play in F, F# and G without having to play in first position, so that I can do two octave runs(two and a half on a six) without shifting my hands, so that I can can grab a root and a tenth on the B and D, E and G, and on the six, A and C strings.

The low notes are cool too. But I spend 90% of my time between the fifth and fifteenth fret.

I play in church a lot, which I think is your main Eb motive if I'm not mistaken.. We play lots in D.. Personally, drop D tuning(or even going DGCF) has worked beautifully. Maybe I'm traditional but there's just something about those four strings. Just don't care for the feel of a fiver.. I actually start to feel pretentious with more than four. Might just be me.
 
DannyB said:
I play in church a lot, which I think is your main Eb motive if I'm not mistaken.. We play lots in D.. Personally, drop D tuning(or even going DGCF) has worked beautifully. Maybe I'm traditional but there's just something about those four strings. Just don't care for the feel of a fiver.. I actually start to feel pretentious with more than four. Might just be me.

Who said I wasn't pretentious?:smug:
 
well personally i prefer 5 strings. 5th string being tuned to low B. i play alot of hard rock and metal with my band and the 4th and 5th string plays for me work really well and im able to play something lower when i want when E doesnt cut it
also playing lighter stuff semi accoustic, blues and country you get a nicer tone out of the deeper B over the E which can fit nicely.
also overdriven/crunch tones on a 5 string sound amazing and you really get that contrast between the 1st and 5th strings that otherwise would be hard to emulate without fat top /skinny bottoms.
plus playing typical 4 string lines its a more comfortable reach over the 5th string rather than a stunted claw reach.
not to mention is stops lazy 4th string playing.
 
I play mostly 6 strings, but as someone else here said it depends on the music you play quite a bit.
I have found that I use the low B string mainly as accents like the last note of a song, kind of a thump to close the song.
But from time to time oldie artists want to change a key they used to sing in down a half or whole step. When you go from E to Eflat, the low B helps a bunch, especially for R&B.
 
LukeMan970 said:
I liked the idea of having those low notes like the D so i wouldn't have to drop but now i'm selling my 5 and going back to a 4 because it just feels better to me. And the weight of that 5 is killing me, i need something lighter now.
You could try a BEAD tuned 4-string. It gives you the low end, and means that you do not have to learn two sets of fingerings. Also, as you already have sets of 5 strings around, you can check it out for free.
 
if i was missing a hand I’d play 12 string... then all i have to do is plug the open strings...

I say go to your local shop and try out different 4 strings and 5 strings... Its all matter of preferences really... I personally feel the best with a 4 string bass, mainly because I suck :) ... someone might feel better with 11 string bass... depends what style you want to develop... Asking "4 vs. 5" is almost like asking "what ice cream i like the best" no one really knows except for person asking you know... That’s my opinion on this... Might be wrong but that’s how I feel…
 
kserg said:
if i was missing a hand I’d play 12 string... then all i have to do is plug the open strings...

Good one.
This reminds me of the old story about Neil Young and his 5 strobe tuners. He didn't want to have to bend down to turn the "pitch selector" knob on his tuner, so he got 4 more and set the knob on the 1st one to E, the knob on the 2nd to B, the knob on the 3rd to G, etc. (With his signal passing through all, obviously.)