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440 hz vs 432 hz ???
- Thread starter hartkebass08
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The "sacred" Solfeggio frequencies don't include 432 Hz. Closest is 417.
Different from the "sacred" Funk frequency of 41.204 Hz
Different from the "sacred" Funk frequency of 41.204 Hz
You're confusing musical intervals (tritones, etc) with measurement of pitch (432, 440, etc).
I think you mean "diminished 5th" aka "augmented 4th".
I'll bet a test group of professional musicians listening to a band tuned to either 432 or 440.1 and then having to guess which tuning it was, would score no better than chance.
I have heard that some people have perfect pitch, but I've never met one.
I tune my B a few cents flat because when I hit it I notice it spikes sharp and then settles down a few cents. The first part of the note (the attack) is what people hear as in or out of tune, imho.
432 divides evenly (i.e. without a remainder or fraction) down to 27Hz. 440 divides evenly "only" down to 55Hz, the next higher octave. If you need to measure frequency with fractional-Hz precision, this may matter to you.
You can also achieve the same effect by messing with your watch, to make it run slower. You'll get more of them "Hertzes" in a second if the second itself is longer!
You can also achieve the same effect by messing with your watch, to make it run slower. You'll get more of them "Hertzes" in a second if the second itself is longer!
Rockin Mike said:
Well I dont have perfect pitch, but I would notice an 8hz difference, especially if I heard any music otw to the test
but I am told I have a better ear for pitch than most.I have a buddy who ABSOLUTELY has perfect pitch. Hes honestly not even a good (let alone great) musician, but you could play any group and quantity of notes and he can list them
Hey!!!! Quit ruining my fun!
"It's 432 man, it's mystical!!!" (insert Tommy Chong smiley icon here)
T-Bird said:Hi.
Seconded.
OTOH, any harmonica player worth his/her salt will be able to compensate on the fly, but if it's more than a one tune sit-in, they'll probably be too tired to continue keeping "in-tune".
Regards
Sam
Nope. Give it a whirl sometime. You will have to reshape the Reeds (comb) or the passages that channel the various notes. We aren't talking about half or whole steps. It's several cents across the whole range of the instrument. This would keep harp players in their seats, if they listened to how awful they sounded. Not a skill harp players are known for.
I do this on all my strings, as I tend to have a punchy attack. If I have to hold a note for longer, I'll just bend it back to pitch.
Check out www.pentagonalskies.com. It's a full-length rock opera recorded completely with A=432Hz tuning. You can listen to and read along with the entire production online (free of charge). Definitely worth the time!
Hi.
Half a year late to reply, but...
I have, I wouldn't said it's possible otherwise. I've also played with a harp player who had the ability to do so.
IME nope, all You have to do is to bend every note just a hair. Draws and bending down is obviously 90% easier than blows/bending up, for me anyway.
, ain't that the truth.
OTOH, I pretty much gave up just because I more or less sucked at harmonica. Not that I'm very good at any instrument, but good enough for rock'n roll
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Regards
Sam
Half a year late to reply, but...
I have, I wouldn't said it's possible otherwise. I've also played with a harp player who had the ability to do so.
IME nope, all You have to do is to bend every note just a hair. Draws and bending down is obviously 90% easier than blows/bending up, for me anyway.
, ain't that the truth.OTOH, I pretty much gave up just because I more or less sucked at harmonica. Not that I'm very good at any instrument, but good enough for rock'n roll
.Regards
Sam
About Concert Pitch:
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Schiller Institute:
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/revolution.html
Search 'Pythagorean tuning'
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Schiller Institute:
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/revolution.html
Search 'Pythagorean tuning'
"and a couple of quarts of beer would fix it so the intonation would not offend the ear"
Frank Zappa / Joe`s Garage 1979
Frank Zappa / Joe`s Garage 1979
I used to play with a guitarist who tuned to 420. Sounded awesome
...which is closer to Eb than E...
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My keyboardist and I are in a huge argument about this.. Heres the thing: people love 'warmth', and lower sounds warmer by comparison. One day I went in and said that he convinced me, I put the organ to 448 , played, switched to 440 and said 'unbelievable, youre so right I finally hear it'
Once he started gloating I showed him the number....
He also calls religious people fools while telling me about equally nonsense energy crystals and particles based on nothing
Once he started gloating I showed him the number....
He also calls religious people fools while telling me about equally nonsense energy crystals and particles based on nothing
Most all orchestra strings are made for standard tuning so its not going to sound all that good, especially for double bass.
Higher tension stings for electric can be tuned down and still sound great though.
Lowering pitch does sound much better and more emotional imho. That's why part of the reason why baroque tuning was A=415h, also its much easier on the human voice; 440 is way to high for our voices! You have to give yourself time with it. The intervals sound much 'looser' and easier on the ear.
There's a whole conspiracy theory about why the Nazis implemented concert pitch to A=440hz.
Higher tension stings for electric can be tuned down and still sound great though.
Lowering pitch does sound much better and more emotional imho. That's why part of the reason why baroque tuning was A=415h, also its much easier on the human voice; 440 is way to high for our voices! You have to give yourself time with it. The intervals sound much 'looser' and easier on the ear.
There's a whole conspiracy theory about why the Nazis implemented concert pitch to A=440hz.
