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4x10 versus 2x12

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Avtar

Jan 7, 2010
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#1
So I'm finally replacing my Ampeg B200R. It's falling apart and just too weak. THe amp I get is dependent on what I can find on Craigslist and around the area(Something like a 450H or an SVT3-Pro probably). After looking for a powerful cab, I was considering like a 410 HLF, but it now sounds like Avatar is the way to go(plus I can scratch off the plate and it will fit my name!). Anyway, what do you all recommend between the 2x12 and the 4x10? DOes this seem like a smart pairing and good way to go? We play loud at small clubs around, so it's nice to have something that you can actually kind of feel, but not a wall I have to lug around.

Thanks!
 
#4
I have both.

I have a Epi NYC 4x10 and a Aguilar GS212. Here's how they compare using the same head (ashdown abm400):

The 4x10 gets MUCH bigger low freqs - the nearly subsonic tone this cab can get is darn near frightening. Tone is very useful for all styles and sounds great when slapping.

The 2x12 has a more focused low-mid emphasis - very cool for rock & roll / blues. Does *not* push as much air as the 4x10, but is lighter / more portable so is fine for mid-sized gigs. Is best for fingerstyle playing.

hope that helps.
 
#5
I'm in a loud, 6 pcs., country/country rock group.
For most of last year I ran a 4 ohm Ed*n 212XLT cab with my old G.K. 800 head, (300 watts at 4 ohms.) I have P.A. support when it is needed.
The 212 sounded great but, I was gettin' buried on stage!
I recently went with "two", 8 ohm, Avatar Neo 210 cabinets for a vertically stacked 410 rig.
I've now got the height advantages of a 810 with a small footprint on stage.
Better projection.
Better cut on stage.
The band loves them...I absolutely love em'.
 
#6
Yeah, we play loud and I generally pick(with the occasional ebow), so I think the 4x10 is the way to go, colored how I want too! Probably pair it with a used SVT3-pro(@ 4 ohms should be fine, right?) In the pictures of the Avatar, I don't notice any grooves to hold the head in place, does it have them? Does it need them? The SVT3-pro is only 28 pounds, so could it fall?
 
#7
Avtar said:
Yeah, we play loud and I generally pick(with the occasional ebow), so I think the 4x10 is the way to go, colored how I want too! Probably pair it with a used SVT3-pro(@ 4 ohms should be fine, right?) In the pictures of the Avatar, I don't notice any grooves to hold the head in place, does it have them? Does it need them? The SVT3-pro is only 28 pounds, so could it fall?
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My G.K. 800 is 23 lbs. and it's in a road case, so I'd guess it's weight at around 27 to 28 lbs. total. It hasn't moved when stacked on a Avatar cab.
If the SVT-3 is a 4 ohm head and if your going to "forever more" have but one cab, I'd say go with a 4 ohm cabinet, (get full power from the head)...but...if you think you may someday want to add another cab for more coverage/volume go with a 8 ohm cab.
I'd suggest maybe the "two", 8 ohm, 210 cabs for a vertical 410 rig.
The Avatar 210 cabs are I believe 40 lbs., very easy to move.
Use just one for rehearsals/small gigs, two when you're gonna be loud.
The ultimate 410!
 
#8
I sometimes run two 8 ohm 210 (1 XLT and 1 XST) Eden cabs at gigs. The Eden WT550 head, at 4 ohms, puts 500 or so watts into them and it sounds good - lots of lows and lots of punch.

So a +1 on the 2 210 cabs. I've not tried Avatar though. I'd like to try the Epi cabs.

Dave
 

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