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5 string

Originally posted by Lovebown


If you need to go low, just tune down the E string to D or C. (or the whole bass to Eb Ab Db Gb).

And yes I know no one agrees with me :)

/lovebown

You're right....
It's so much easier to retune during a set.
" 'scuse me boys, gotta retune again. I'll be back in a minute...."

But to the initial question, a little work and you should be fine. It's more just a matter of getting adjusted to the string spacing at first. Run some scales (good advice anytime) and it should come to you without too much pain or angst.
 
Originally posted by fretless5


You're right....
It's so much easier to retune during a set.
" 'scuse me boys, gotta retune again. I'll be back in a minute...."

But to the initial question, a little work and you should be fine. It's more just a matter of getting adjusted to the string spacing at first. Run some scales (good advice anytime) and it should come to you without too much pain or angst.

Ugh... You tune down and keep it that way ...
 
Originally posted by Lovebown


Ugh... You tune down and keep it that way ...

uh...yeah....but if you have a B, you have ALL those notes to choose from, without retuning, all the time. I'm not saying 5's are inherently better or worse, but your logic doesn't hold up. If you don't like 'em, don't use 'em, but don't try to tell me (or anyone else) that they're somehow useless or inferior. They're not.
 
Originally posted by Lovebown


Ugh... You tune down and keep it that way ...

You outsmarted me again! Damn!
It is so nice to find openminded people like you.
I will make an effort to relearn the instrument to your well thought out standards.
I will scrap nearly 30 years of learning and tune 1/2 step lower. Of course that still limits my low range, but so what? I don't need to be playing those low notes....

What is it, a BASS instrument or something?
 
I'm totally with Gard and Bruce on this. Their experiences are parallel to mine. It took me a few weeks to get used to the B, but the biggest aid for me was jumping from a mediocre 5 to a really good 5. All of a sudden I did'nt have to think about it anymore. The good instrument (in my case, a Stingray 5) just felt like a proper instrument, not like a 4 with a string added on. BTW, I dont like playing 4's anymore, I am so used to the 5 and 6, I feel naked and limited with a 4.
 
Originally posted by Marty Forrer
BTW, I dont like playing 4's anymore, I am so used to the 5 and 6, I feel naked and limited with a 4.
Hehe...funny, sometimes I still feel a bit overdressed when I play my 5. Oh well. That'll probably go away after I bring it to a couple of these rehearsals. Since we rehearse twice a week, maybe my 4 on Mondays & my 5 on Fridays. That should get me even more used to it. :D
 
Originally posted by fretless5


You outsmarted me again! Damn!
It is so nice to find openminded people like you.
I will make an effort to relearn the instrument to your well thought out standards.
I will scrap nearly 30 years of learning and tune 1/2 step lower. Of course that still limits my low range, but so what? I don't need to be playing those low notes....

What is it, a BASS instrument or something?

More strings don't make you a better player, and I really can't think of any kind of music that would need to go lower than D or C, but hey if you want to play a 5-string , do so!

I guess I'm just not "openminded" enough so you probably shouldn't listen to me.
Bleh.

/lovebown
 
love brown my advice would be to try a 5 with a solid B string,that ibanez won't do it for ya.
hey lb you heard of keyboard bass right,well a lot of keyboard player's were taking are gig's because they were able to go were we couldn't now we can
thank's to the all mighty B string.personally if you don't dig it stay with your 4 and be the best you can.BUT STOP HATING.now go practice you're scales in only 1 position.lol
 
Originally posted by starr
love brown my advice would be to try a 5 with a solid B string,that ibanez won't do it for ya.
hey lb you heard of keyboard bass right,well a lot of keyboard player's were taking are gig's because they were able to go were we couldn't now we can
thank's to the all mighty B string.personally if you don't dig it stay with your 4 and be the best you can.BUT STOP HATING.now go practice you're scales in only 1 position.lol

What ibanez are you talking about?

What do you mean hating? I don't hate anything related to bass guitar :P
Yeah I guess I'll go practice my scales in one position. (Not that the position changes if you play a 5 string?)

/Lovebown
 
the same ibanez 5 you're trying next sat,and hating mean's being jealous. people with 5stringer's should trade them in for 4.what's wrong with 5?but you don't hate anything about the bass,yeah right.
just because you can't seem to find the right notes LoL doesn't mean we can't go down low.embarresed in you're little music store huh like I said earlier go PRACTICE you're scales.
 
Im not even going to bother responding to lovebowns spew, buuuuut...

Fishbrain, i wouldnt buy an Ibanez, unless its a BTB. All the rest have unstable necks and extremely floppy B strings. The sound wont be even, and your B will be hardly audible.
 
Originally posted by Lovebown


More strings don't make you a better player, and I really can't think of any kind of music that would need to go lower than D or C, but hey if you want to play a 5-string , do so!

I guess I'm just not "openminded" enough so you probably shouldn't listen to me.
Bleh.

/lovebown

Well - you don;t seem to read other people's posts - I explained quite carefully what it's not about lower notes but rather - tone, two octave scales, transposing etc - and you just seem to have ignored this - so I suppose you could call this - not being open minded enough! :rolleyes:

And I meant to say "shorter decay" not less...


"Actually, I play Jazz and find the 5 string particularly useful for many reasons and wouldn't go back to a 4 again - I have played 5s and 6s for Jazz.

Quite often in Jazz you are looking for a "darker" sound with less decay - more like an upright bass. Now if you play lines around the 12th fret on the B and E strings, you can get much closer to this sound. Especially if you play with thumb and plam muting. Playing the same lines close to the nut - nearly all bass guitars sound too "twangy" and bright, but playing the B string high up the neck is a much warmer sound.

The other thing in Jazz is that you are usually looking at playing in 2 octaves and frequently transposing lines - witha 4 string you run out of options very quickly, whereas with a 5 or 6 with 24 frets, you can make shifts and still have 2 octave sto play with. So if the singer wants you to change the key it's much easier.

Thirdly in Jazz - a lot of standards are in the "flat" keys, so you find yourself playing F and Eb roots a lot - now on a 4-string you basically end up with only 1 position for this, but on a 5 you can shift and start you lines from 6th fret on the B string - otherwise every F is at the 1st fret on the E string and thsi can lead to fatigue and cramps in your wrist on long gigs!

I could probably think of other reasons, but these are the main ones and if I didn't have logical reasons for playing 5 or 6, then I would play a 4, but there are many advantages so I don't ! "
 
Originally posted by Angus
Fishbrain, i wouldnt buy an Ibanez, unless its a BTB. All the rest have unstable necks and extremely floppy B strings. The sound wont be even, and your B will be hardly audible.
Well, my Ibanez 5 string's ok. Good enough for what I need to do, at least. :D
If I were to become a professional musician, or needed to use the low B a lot more, then I'd probably get a higher end 5 string. :)
 
Originally posted by starr
the same ibanez 5 you're trying next sat,and hating mean's being jealous. people with 5stringer's should trade them in for 4.what's wrong with 5?but you don't hate anything about the bass,yeah right.
just because you can't seem to find the right notes LoL doesn't mean we can't go down low.embarresed in you're little music store huh like I said earlier go PRACTICE you're scales.
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I'm trying a ibanez 5 next saturday?
Cool I didn't know that!

What the hell are you talking about sonny?

/lovebown