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A music store rep told me.....

#21
I'm talking about all the bickering and disagreement that goes on over this. It always ends up with people being very opinionated and this kind of thread is been beat to death like everyday! "My Squier is better than any MIA", "You're crazy, MIA is best".
"Hey, is a MIA P-bass really worth $XXX.XX than a Squier?"
Don't you get tired of these threads?
 
#22
bumperbass said:
I'm talking about all the bickering and disagreement that goes on over this. It always ends up with people being very opinionated and this kind of thread is been beat to death like everyday! "My Squier is better than any MIA", "You're crazy, MIA is best".
"Hey, is a MIA P-bass really worth $XXX.XX than a Squier?"
Don't you get tired of these threads?
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Totally.

bumperbass said:
If someone can't afford a REAL Precision (MIA) let them buy an SX or whatever clone. They'll probably be back for the real thing if they're actually playing for money.
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Probably... I know I won't. It's Warmoth or MIJ for me! :smug: (To each their own though.)
 
#23
bumperbass said:
I'm talking about all the bickering and disagreement that goes on over this. It always ends up with people being very opinionated and this kind of thread is been beat to death like everyday! "My Squier is better than any MIA", "You're crazy, MIA is best".
"Hey, is a MIA P-bass really worth $XXX.XX than a Squier?"
Don't you get tired of these threads?
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I don't read those threads.
 
#25
SurferJoe46 said:
I said this at least a year ago and everybody laughed and called me a troll. I got the word from four guys in GC Hollywierd wearing $500 shoes and Armani and Savile Row.

It's coming around. Fender cannot afford to keep highly paid real luthiers on payroll with the economy the way it is and they are moving them down to lower-priced lines of guitars and basses.

The CS stuff isn't selling - not well enough to keep the place going - so it's a natural situation where the company in it's need to survive has to make changes that will keep hot-n-cold running secretaries in the upper offices.

It's not just Fender though - it's the whole market that's dying.

There's too many IFs in the works right now.
[*]IF the economy comes back
[*]IF Spain and Italy don't tip the whole world into financial ruin
[*]IF China doesn't 'call' the debt
[*]IF we just get a good president/dictator/leader next time
[*]IF I can find a paying gig
[*]IF I can feed my kids and spouse
[*]IF I don't get foreclosed and have to live in my car
[*]IF I don't get a huge medical bill
[*]IF I can make it to next year


And don't forget that if one is married with kids, the expenses and responsibility go up exponentially. So does the risk. So does the reality.
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this made me laugh out loud and feel super depressed at the same time. I totally agree with all of the above. Tough times..
 
#26
hibachiduck said:
It's going to be ok. Nobody gets hurt due to some people having strong opinions. If it weren't this there'd just be something else for the contrarians to bicker about. Just don't read those threads. Problem solved.
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Somehow, I guess I have to be careful about these 'traps' and then look elsewhere. There's a lot of good stuff on TB. It's all worth it in the end. I think I take things too seriously sometimes. :bawl:
 
#27
bumperbass said:
Somehow, I guess I have to be careful about these 'traps' and then look elsewhere. There's a lot of good stuff on TB. It's all worth it in the end. I think I take things too seriously sometimes. :bawl:
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There is an unbelievable wealth of information on TB. I wouldn't know half of what I know were it not for this forum. Just avoid trolls and "Fender vs. blahblahblah" or "P bass vs. J bass" or "OMG WHAT'S THE BEST FERRULE!!!!?!?!!????" (I wouldn't be surprised if someone on here has replaced their "cheap Fender ferrules" for "high mass ferrules for long sustain" haha
 
#28
SurferJoe46 said:
I said this at least a year ago and everybody laughed and called me a troll. I got the word from four guys in GC Hollywierd wearing $500 shoes and Armani and Savile Row.

It's coming around. Fender cannot afford to keep highly paid real luthiers on payroll with the economy the way it is and they are moving them down to lower-priced lines of guitars and basses.

The CS stuff isn't selling - not well enough to keep the place going - so it's a natural situation where the company in it's need to survive has to make changes that will keep hot-n-cold running secretaries in the upper offices.

It's not just Fender though - it's the whole market that's dying.

There's too many IFs in the works right now.
  • IF the economy comes back
  • IF Spain and Italy don't tip the whole world into financial ruin
  • IF China doesn't 'call' the debt
  • IF we just get a good president/dictator/leader next time
  • IF I can find a paying gig
  • IF I can feed my kids and spouse
  • IF I don't get foreclosed and have to live in my car
  • IF I don't get a huge medical bill
  • IF I can make it to next year

And don't forget that if one is married with kids, the expenses and responsibility go up exponentially. So does the risk. So does the reality.
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This is the stark reality and spot-on. Time for everyone to check their parachutes.

Riis
 
#30
In general, what music store employees say should be taken with a very large grain of salt.

However, what Surfer Joe said sounds spot on. The MI industry is withering, with few exceptions. Fender is not one of those exceptions.
 
#33
Not impossible. From a business point of view, very plausible.

That said, Squier exists for the benefit of Fender. It's kind of like a gateway drug. Like your Squier Affinity P-Bass? Buy a MIM Precison. Second bass? MIA. Of course, sites like TB help to destroy the illusion of there being distinct levels of Fender basses in terms of quality, but not everyone is on TB and not everyone cares about what we think.

On the other hand, I have always believed that the CV series was way underpriced and that all the love they get would eventually register in the boardrooms and they would be cranked up a notch and re-badged as MIC Fenders. Seriously, I paid twice as much for my MIM and it doesn't stand up to my Squier CV.
 
#34
SurferJoe46 said:
I said this at least a year ago and everybody laughed and called me a troll. I got the word from four guys in GC Hollywierd wearing $500 shoes and Armani and Savile Row.

It's coming around. Fender cannot afford to keep highly paid real luthiers on payroll with the economy the way it is and they are moving them down to lower-priced lines of guitars and basses.

The CS stuff isn't selling - not well enough to keep the place going - so it's a natural situation where the company in it's need to survive has to make changes that will keep hot-n-cold running secretaries in the upper offices.

It's not just Fender though - it's the whole market that's dying.

There's too many IFs in the works right now.
  • IF the economy comes back
  • IF Spain and Italy don't tip the whole world into financial ruin
  • IF China doesn't 'call' the debt
  • IF we just get a good president/dictator/leader next time
  • IF I can find a paying gig
  • IF I can feed my kids and spouse
  • IF I don't get foreclosed and have to live in my car
  • IF I don't get a huge medical bill
  • IF I can make it to next year

And don't forget that if one is married with kids, the expenses and responsibility go up exponentially. So does the risk. So does the reality.
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This is pretty much what my guy told me as well. Squier works for Fender and they can try different models and ideas with Squier lines that they would never take with Fender.
 
#35
SurferJoe46 said:
There's too many IFs in the works right now.
  • IF the economy comes back
  • IF Spain and Italy don't tip the whole world into financial ruin
  • IF China doesn't 'call' the debt
  • IF we just get a good president/dictator/leader next time
  • IF I can find a paying gig
  • IF I can feed my kids and spouse
  • IF I don't get foreclosed and have to live in my car
  • IF I don't get a huge medical bill
  • IF I can make it to next year
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Wow. It is a humbling thought, to consider that HALF of the variables governing the future of the music industry depend on YOU. And here, I thought they depended on ME.

SoVeryTired said:
No, no, that wouldn't work at all. It should be Fier, so that people can misspell it as Fire and ten other people can point out their error. :D
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I want a Classic Vibe Feir!
 
#37
SoVeryTired said:
No, no, that wouldn't work at all. It should be Fier, so that people can misspell it as Fire and ten other people can point out their error. :D
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Oh, this is not even funny, I can NOT believe how upset people get when you misspell Squire or Squier or whichever way you spell it. Come on people, get a life. With the serious lack of command of the English language that goes on here all of the time, it seems that this might be the numero uno problem people have. It is as if you are bashing the brand just because you don't know how to spell it...
 
#38
mdogs said:
Oh, this is not even funny, I can NOT believe how upset people get when you misspell Squire or Squier or whichever way you spell it. Come on people, get a life. With the serious lack of command of the English language that goes on here all of the time, it seems that this might be the numero uno problem people have. It is as if you are bashing the brand just because you don't know how to spell it...
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Maybe it's because it's the only brand that gets misspelled - it never happens to Fendar, Gibsun or Rickenbacher.

Actually, it does happen to Fedora quite regularly. But not MDT.
 
#40
I love my Fedora

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