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A quick 6-phaser shootout

#103
Still one of the best threads on TalkBass :-) Just got a Keeley 6-stage Phaser. Had to add some clips.
I've just played with it for an hour. Love the sound (round and spacious), but there is a perceived volume drop when activating the pedal which I think is unfortunate.

Ok, here goes:
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Cheers,
Kalle
 
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#104
just stumbled on this thread during my sunday evening research of phasers / flangers. Unfortunately the original sound cloud links aren't working for me, I guess Smeet has removed them :(. I was interested in hearing the Nebula IV samples, do any TB'ers have any they can share?

I want something that would work well on guitar and bass (not losing too much low end), pedal board friendly (no bigger than a boss pedal) and not MXR (I don't dislike MXR, I loved my micro flanger but hate the volume boost you get without the level control).

Application for Bass would be for some thin lizzy covers, obviously I'm not going after Lynott's exact sound but a good replication of that style of Phaser. The Nebula seemed to fit those requirements based on Smeets review and the guitar demos I listened too.

Any new/other Phasers on the market since this review that should be considered, EBS dPhaser?
 
#105
Oh crap, yeah I removed the soundcloud samples a while ago, I forgot I linked to them from here. Let me see if I can find them somewhere...

I sold all my effects except for my B7K, and then recently bought a bunch more, and believe it or not my current phaser is a Joyo Vintage Phase, which is actually pretty good. I A/B'd it with the previous favorite (the SA Orbital), and it's not nearly as rich but its pretty darn good for the ridiculous price.
 
#108
I'm attaching the T-Rex Tremonti phaser examples to this post since the SoundCloud link will disappear soon.

Cheers,
Kalle
 

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#109
As well as the Keeley (6-stage) phaser examples.
 

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#110
Must... keep... this... superb... thread... going! ;) :)

Attached sample clips of the Chase Bliss Audio Wombtone mk II (4 stage and 6 stage modes. There's also a 2 stage mode).
Disclaimer: This pedal has a lot more tweakability than your regular phaser making it quite complex to dial in. I've had it for a while and am starting to get the hang of it, but I'm certain I have plenty left to learn regarding fine tuning the perfect phase sound. As well as YMMV on that regard ;)

Cheers,
Kalle
 

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#115
morrisonhendrix said:
Karla684, you are playing the "Have A Cigar" parts with a pick, correct? Sounds like it to me.
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Yessir, it was a pick. I don't remember which bass, but it was a P pickup and roundwound strings of some kind.

Actually I don't usually play with a pick, but for some reason to me the classic phaser sound really happens with a pick.
 
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smeet said:
Yessir, it was a pick. I don't remember which bass, but it was a P pickup and roundwound strings of some kind.

Actually I don't usually play with a pick, but for some reason to me the classic phaser sound really happens with a pick.
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Thank you for the clarification. I agree, that the classic phaser sound it best brought out by a pick. I don't think that'll ever change. The only issue for me is, I'm a finger style guy. I will play the occasional song or two with a pick, but rarely.

Thanks for the samples and information.
 
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#117
2 of my favs are a Ross Phaser (Taiwan black box version) and a late 70's Phase 100.

I always keep an MXR Phase 90 around though, just for a reference....ive got a Boss Super Phaser PH2 that I need to try w/ bass guitar.

These clips prove that an effect can sound one way in the finished product and another way in the room being recorded!
 
#118
Sorry to resurrect...I have a question / problem. I LOVE the phaser tone, and we do a lot of Floyd and other stuff that is perfect for it.

But in practice, when I use a phaser I have a lot of trouble with definition, especially at the bottom of the sweep. It's a real challenge to be heard and drive the tempo, and sometimes the drummer can't hear my pocket and thinks I'm slowing down or something.

It sounds great by myself, but gets lost in a band context. This has happened with the block loo and script logo Phase 90s - admittedly the only phasers I've owned. Recommendations?
 
#119
Rayjay said:
Sorry to resurrect...I have a question / problem. I LOVE the phaser tone, and we do a lot of Floyd and other stuff that is perfect for it.

But in practice, when I use a phaser I have a lot of trouble with definition, especially at the bottom of the sweep. It's a real challenge to be heard and drive the tempo, and sometimes the drummer can't hear my pocket and thinks I'm slowing down or something.

It sounds great by myself, but gets lost in a band context. This has happened with the block loo and script logo Phase 90s - admittedly the only phasers I've owned. Recommendations?
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The loRetain parameter on the Orbital "preserves the low end", which I believe applies less of the effect to the low frequencies. Either way, it seems to clean up the sound and helps to retain the punch.
 
#120
Ok cool thanks - "retains the punch" is what I'm looking for as opposed to "preserves the low end" - Psilocybe good in a band context or get lost in the mix?

The Orbital sounds killer, but I am shy of pedals with too many knobs - I play a lot of dark rooms with little to no soundcheck time.
 

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