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A resignation letter. And a response.

That's encouraging. I'm 53 and I still jump around the stage like a teenager. Actually I just played a little local festival and none of the twenty-somethings crashed around like I do. But I feel the sore bits after and I sometimes wonder how long I'll be able to keep it up. Good to hear that you came out the other side of the self-doubt! And good on your bandmates for encouraging you.
I'll be 50 in a few days, and my band has been on what seems to be a permanent hiatus since fall of 2023. I miss spending time with my bandmates, but I do not miss the gigs. Even with a low impact style of gigging (trio with no electric guitars, small PA), the routine takes way more out of me than it used to.
 
Well that made my day Bunk! I think they are lucky to have a bassist who is clear, honest, and upfront. You are lucky to have bandmates who see your value and are willing to go to bat for you and boost you up. It sounds like a project where all are invested in the group as a whole. Awesome stuff all around - now go rock the heck out of that gig with your friends.
 
That's part of the concept: Playing the oldies, but also "surfifying" contemporary songs. Favorite example: we have a version of Taylor Swift's "Shake It Off" which we have renamed "Surf It Off." I hope this helps to understand what we are doing, and why it is so much work. We're re-inventing contemporary music to fit the aesthetics of the 1963 Billboard Top 100.
Well played !

Good on you, and good on your band mates


My arthritis and lingering issues from a car accident , a concussion, and post covid brain fog, took away what was the ability to play as long, recall material as adeptly as before 2021 ( bad year) I feel you!

A band I’m currently in is doing mashups.
Hotel California is the basis of one.
Played Reggae style, with the lyrics of Hall and Oates Maneater.

BeeGees staying alive w/ another brick in the wall.

Buffalo Springfield “stop” over music for Young MC bust a move.

Trying to keep that straight is quite a challenge!

Persevere, if you are enjoying it, everyone else will! We call it PLAYING music, without joy the music is hollow.
 
Sent this out to the guys in the surf music band I've been rehearsing with:

"Ever have a sleepless night? I never did, until last night, when I realized that I have become older guy in rock'n'roll. Monday I played Hotel California for two hours straight, and I still couldn't get my head around the arrangement. I'm in rehearsal with you guys, I have charts in front of me, and I'm still messing up. I gotta face facts: I do not have the strength, or the speed, or sufficient memory capacity to play this music. I suppose it had to happen sooner or later. I'm 74 years old, and whatever it was that I had as a player I just don't have anymore. I do not want to play in front of an audience with a music stand with charts I keep losing my place in. Peter, Mike, Mark: I have nothing but admiration for your talents. You guys can really play. You need somebody who can keep up. I'm tired of beating myself up for not being able to deliver the music. And I feel guilty as hell for pulling a stunt like this, after all this work we've done, but I see no alternative.
I'll be at rehearsal tomorrow to pick up my stuff."

I showed up, and for whatever reason brought my bass. The four of us sat in the kitchen for a few minutes. The keyboard player began with "I sort of see where you're coming from." The guitar player said, "You brought your bass. You want to play? Look, you know these songs. Don't look at the charts. Just relax and play them the way you want to play them."

And I did. And it was fun again. And I'm sticking.
Cool story, I’ll be 72 at year end and I get it. I’ve noticed a significant drop off in performance in the last couple of years thanks to recording all gigs, and rehearsals when learning new material. The good news is. I’m nowhere near as bad as I think. You probably aren’t either.
 
What a great story.

Sounds like awesome people to play with. And a cool reward for communicating effectively with your creative partners.
I wasn't trying to communicate effectively. I was trying to be as honest as possible about my situation. And I am not a creative partner. I'm there to do what they ask me to do. "I'm not an artist. I'm in the service business." I'm not kidding about that.
 
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If you want to get rid of charts, you need to get rid of them asap.
Just picked up a nice gig because one of the issues with the current guy is he relies on his ipad too much. Thats not the only reason but BL doesn't want that.
So, for me, I'm cramming the songs...its a lot of work and been 2 months of solid effort.. learning around 80 songs from two units which BL runs.

If you get it quick...like we used to, you can spend less time, if you dont, you need to prep more.

It's good your guys are understanding, tolerant. Others might be less so..
 
I’m in a similar situation when it comes to memorizing music now that I’m three weeks shy of 70. Drives me absolutely crazy that I’m playing better today than I ever was but having more trouble learning material than I ever did. The only thing that seems to work is to be playing out often enough that I stop thinking about what I’m playing and just feel it.
 
It's fortunate when you have bandmates that actually listen and care. I've been in a duo with a singer/songwriter (he plays guitar of course) for a bit over two years. Since he does all the writing, I've just been (probably way too) patient waiting for him to feel like we are ready to play out. I have NEVER been in a band that waited that long to play out.

My buddy is a nice guy (which actually makes quitting more difficult) but as a musician he leaves everything to be desired. He is unschooled. Doesn't understand chord structure, keys, can't read music, and on top of that, often and I mean often forgets his lyrics and messes up chords as well. Plus he keeps changing the intros to some tunes which throws me off.

He kept saying that we are "partners" but he's asked me for help with lyrics twice now, and I've spent considerable time and effort coming up with what he wanted, only to find he didn't use one word or phrase I came up with and no explanation as to why not. A LOT of his lyrics are repetitive, so I did, imho, a good job of varying the words to convey a similar feel and meaning, but it didn't matter.

About a year ago he started talking about starting to get out there and hustle gigs. Tomorrow, my friend who rents my house in the country is having a BBQ and wanted us to provide the musical entertainment. I got my buddy to agree to do it, and asked him to choose two sets of 8 tunes each. So, what does he do? He comes up with two set lists alright, and then says that he probably won't follow the list, and also presents a list of about 10 tunes (out of our entire 26 tune repertoire) that he says "aren't good enough" to play out yet. After two bloody years? OMG.

Well, let me tell you, I nailed down my parts a LONG time ago. I play them the same way each time, except of course when he makes changes on the fly. So I will leave it to you to figure out who isn't ready to play those 10 tunes (that he wrote).

The last time he asked for help and didn't use any of it, I told him, as nicely as possible, not to ask for any more help. When he said why, I told him. Got no response, nothing. Despite him calling us "partners" I feel more like an unpaid sideman.

As this "gig" has been approaching, I see him getting more and more nervous about it, although he didn't say anything until today (the gig is tomorrow afternoon). I think he is completely insecure and anxious but fundamentally just wants to keep it to himself.

Personally, I never smoke or drink at rehearsals or at a gig. He is already talking about drinking rum to settle himself down, plus he also likes to smoke during rehearsals which does not help things. You'd think we were playing Carnegie Hall instead of an unpaid gig in front of perhaps 10 people at my house in the country.

I always record everything. I've always done that as far back as I can recall. The tape doesn't lie and the only way I know how to improve is to listen to how it sounds and go from there. I send him copies of the recordings but it doesn't seem to make the least bit of difference. He still forgets words, sometimes leaves out complete verses and frequently just messes up.

I have reached my limit. I've already canceled our Monday rehearsal and will phone him during the week to tell him that I think it's time for me to move on. I have no desire to confront him with the truth. He is in his late 60s and my guess is that this isn't the first time he's found himself in a situation like this, and my further guess is that it won't be his last time.

Several months ago I ran into a guy who plays a lot locally, mostly small clubs and mostly as a solo act. He was having trouble finding reliable bass players and asked me to sit in with him one night at a pub not two blocks from my house. I brought my rig and sat in - no rehearsals. He just told me what tune we were playing next (all covers of course). We played for about two hours, two different sets, and got applause. He asked me if I wanted to do this regularly, but I'm a loyal guy and stayed with my current "partner." Clearly a mistake.

Anyway, I contacted him and we might start getting together again after the end of the month. It's not original music, but ask me if I care at this point. It will be nice to do more playing out and less of the endless pointless rehearsals.

It's a mixture of regret and sorrow and also relief that it will soon be all over. I wish I hadn't wasted all that time, but have no one but myself to blame for that. I got sucked in by the allure of being able to write all my own original lines. How many times does an opportunity like that come along? For me, the answer is next to never. I just didn't realize that that was the only advantage of the situation.

Thanks for reading my long tale of woe.
 
"Not original music" ? Covers are very fun. Imo an original has to be pretty incredible to compete with covers. So, go head on and play the he'll out of those covers. I wish I still could.
 
I’m at 66, so not quite as old as some here (never thought I’d be saying that considering most of the company my playing seems to keep for the last several years…. :roflmao: )….

Since I started back playing 13-14 years ago, I’ve been mostly a mercenary player. I found that making a number chart helps me to learn a song to the point that once my chart is finished, I have the song memorized.

Also, lately, I’ve had two sub-type gigs pop up where “I’m not sending a song list, listen and do yer best” was the description of the gig.

I find that mildly frustrating, but extremely challenging and exhilarating, of all things. It’s older classic rock, country, and R&B songs. It’s certainly not perfect, but the bandleader approves and calls back.

Okay, whatever. I’m still playing and adding to my income while enjoying it. And still getting calls. I'm very blessed with the health, mind, and body to keep it going. Yes, my lower back gets sore after an hour or so, but I carry a small folding stool, not very comfortable, but that’s the idea. Sit down occasionally on a slow song and I’m good to go.