You can just read all the stuff in bold for the "TL;DNR" version
Ok, so I know there's a million threads about these, but most people asking never seem to know what they even want other than "best or "cheap".
I have a very specific inquiry with all important parameters already outlined, so it's easy to help me. I'm just wondering if anyone knows of some pedals that will fill these criteria. There are way too many pedals out there for me to not ask for help on this since someone might see this and straight away know the answer, while I'm on day 4 still searching every single multi effects pedal ever made's manuals T_T.
There is a picture included of what I require to make visualizing/recognizing the guideline easier. I'll also type out the captions from the extra-rough layout for people that might have trouble seeing the pic. The writing in the pic's a bit different so if anything go by what you read here instead.
Here's the layout pic.
Here goes.
The pedal should be capable of having at least 5 effects simultaneously running. These should be 5 out of whatever 100s it has on it, not limited to one delay at a time, one distortion at a time, etc.
It should have some kind of screen to show what bank is currently selected, as well as what effect has been selected, what parameter is being adjusted, the effect's placement in the footswitches (not NECESSARY but definitely would be a no brainer if I was making a digital multi-pedal) and show tuner tuner letters when switched to tuner function (if tuner included).
Enough knobs to control any single effect pedal it's emulating within reason. Max "knobs" I've ever seen on a stomp box was 9, 5 of which are switches, so I'm guessing 6 knob parameters (obviously they change when you select different effects) and four 4 switches/buttons for changing modes.
Buttons are fine because of course cycling A-B-C-A-B, etc is fine in a live scenario. you don't usually get down and have to flip any tiny switches on pedals
Should have separate buttons/foot switches for patch/bank (as in overall up and down presets).
Should have at least 3 foot switches built in specifically for engaging/disengaging specific pedals, or even secondary features on certain pedals that also use a footswitch.
This is of utmost importance: No predetermined and unchangeable locations for distortion, chorus, delay, etc, (unless there's a whole next row of fully programmable ones built in like I saw in some random pic online) otherwise you get limited severely in your choices and the number of effects active to how many footswitches you have. Best method; select the effect, then assign to footswitch, thereby enabling on and off with the foot switch press. easy and not horrendously limiting.
An expression pedal built in. Can be a smaller one as long at it still works properly. Must be programmable to different effects for different banks, aka whammy on one bank, volume on the next, and not just be a wah pedal all the time >_>
Must have these particular effects/functionalities:
*A large amount of programmable banks (think 30-50 and more)
Quality compression like dyna comp
Limiter
Gate
Delay
Chorus
Ring modulator (if these aren't being included they really should be. If you can't find these on any mutli effects please disregard this one due to my ignorance)
Auto wah
Hi and lo pass filters
Noise reduction
Whammy pedal/pitch shifter
Keyboard bass sim (i dunno know the right name, but you know what I mean)
*All should be adjustable in a layout like the real thing, not just one parameter that cranks every setting on the thing all at once -_-'
**The effects have to have proper tracking and tone for bass and not just be horrible tone/bass/mojo/dynamics suck. I plan to use at least the noise reduction at all times, so there can't be a compromise here.
Preferred functionality:
USB connection to roughly calibrate patches and settings on a good size computer screen/tablet etc so you only need to slightly change stuff depending on what room you're in, backline/PA system you're playing through.
"Not really needed" stuff ( to maybe suggest a cheaper model if these can be bypassed to help narrow it down, lol).
A preposterous amount of effects
any amp or cab sim
it being true bypass
a tuner/tuner bypass
multiple expression pedals
hefty price tag
midi whatevers
Thanks alot for you time, I'm sure this should be enough info to at least tell me to gtfo and wait another 5 years till these guys that make the stuff actually start making them logically, if not get me the results I need.
Oh and btw, please don't try to tell me all about analog pedals, or whatever, let's just stick to the actual topic at hand and see if we can find this thing. I use both anyways. Oh, and if them guys who make this kinda stuff see this and decide to actually make it you can always send me one free and I won't press charges ™ King Cheese Music.
Ok, so I know there's a million threads about these, but most people asking never seem to know what they even want other than "best or "cheap".
I have a very specific inquiry with all important parameters already outlined, so it's easy to help me. I'm just wondering if anyone knows of some pedals that will fill these criteria. There are way too many pedals out there for me to not ask for help on this since someone might see this and straight away know the answer, while I'm on day 4 still searching every single multi effects pedal ever made's manuals T_T.
There is a picture included of what I require to make visualizing/recognizing the guideline easier. I'll also type out the captions from the extra-rough layout for people that might have trouble seeing the pic. The writing in the pic's a bit different so if anything go by what you read here instead.
Here's the layout pic.
Here goes.
The pedal should be capable of having at least 5 effects simultaneously running. These should be 5 out of whatever 100s it has on it, not limited to one delay at a time, one distortion at a time, etc.
It should have some kind of screen to show what bank is currently selected, as well as what effect has been selected, what parameter is being adjusted, the effect's placement in the footswitches (not NECESSARY but definitely would be a no brainer if I was making a digital multi-pedal) and show tuner tuner letters when switched to tuner function (if tuner included).
Enough knobs to control any single effect pedal it's emulating within reason. Max "knobs" I've ever seen on a stomp box was 9, 5 of which are switches, so I'm guessing 6 knob parameters (obviously they change when you select different effects) and four 4 switches/buttons for changing modes.
Buttons are fine because of course cycling A-B-C-A-B, etc is fine in a live scenario. you don't usually get down and have to flip any tiny switches on pedals
Should have separate buttons/foot switches for patch/bank (as in overall up and down presets).
Should have at least 3 foot switches built in specifically for engaging/disengaging specific pedals, or even secondary features on certain pedals that also use a footswitch.
This is of utmost importance: No predetermined and unchangeable locations for distortion, chorus, delay, etc, (unless there's a whole next row of fully programmable ones built in like I saw in some random pic online) otherwise you get limited severely in your choices and the number of effects active to how many footswitches you have. Best method; select the effect, then assign to footswitch, thereby enabling on and off with the foot switch press. easy and not horrendously limiting.
An expression pedal built in. Can be a smaller one as long at it still works properly. Must be programmable to different effects for different banks, aka whammy on one bank, volume on the next, and not just be a wah pedal all the time >_>
Must have these particular effects/functionalities:
*A large amount of programmable banks (think 30-50 and more)
Quality compression like dyna comp
Limiter
Gate
Delay
Chorus
Ring modulator (if these aren't being included they really should be. If you can't find these on any mutli effects please disregard this one due to my ignorance)
Auto wah
Hi and lo pass filters
Noise reduction
Whammy pedal/pitch shifter
Keyboard bass sim (i dunno know the right name, but you know what I mean)
*All should be adjustable in a layout like the real thing, not just one parameter that cranks every setting on the thing all at once -_-'
**The effects have to have proper tracking and tone for bass and not just be horrible tone/bass/mojo/dynamics suck. I plan to use at least the noise reduction at all times, so there can't be a compromise here.
Preferred functionality:
USB connection to roughly calibrate patches and settings on a good size computer screen/tablet etc so you only need to slightly change stuff depending on what room you're in, backline/PA system you're playing through.
"Not really needed" stuff ( to maybe suggest a cheaper model if these can be bypassed to help narrow it down, lol).
A preposterous amount of effects
any amp or cab sim
it being true bypass
a tuner/tuner bypass
multiple expression pedals
hefty price tag
midi whatevers
Thanks alot for you time, I'm sure this should be enough info to at least tell me to gtfo and wait another 5 years till these guys that make the stuff actually start making them logically, if not get me the results I need.
Oh and btw, please don't try to tell me all about analog pedals, or whatever, let's just stick to the actual topic at hand and see if we can find this thing. I use both anyways. Oh, and if them guys who make this kinda stuff see this and decide to actually make it you can always send me one free and I won't press charges ™ King Cheese Music.
hopefully you know what i mean. as in an adjustable high quality clone of a famously useful unit. and not some one knob scrub-level afterthought compression. like, those will do the job, and usually sound great, but lack of real depth and adjustability is just something there's no excuse for on a digital unit. same with there being only one compression.
