Absolute Paleo

[twinjet]

I've been eating a ketogenic diet for a couple of months now- it's not too dissimilar from a paleo diet. Very low carbs, no grains or legumes, little dairy and sugars, mostly veggies, eggs, and meat. It focuses on high fat though so you stay full and satisfied longer. It's been surprisingly easy to stay on- the one exception is I drink diet soda now, which isn't good in any way, but way better than the bottle of Coke or Mountain Dew I'd drink a day Pork rinds are fair game, so they're my snack of choice,

I've lost 20lbs without exercise so far- my ideal weight is only about 5-10lbs less. Normally I run a lot so once that's going again it should be easy to get there and maintain.

One thing that's helpful when you don't feel like cooking meat and kale every meal is making a big pot of vegetable beef stew with a nice chunk of grass fed butter in it. It lasts a while in the fridge and is an easy, filling, quick meal when you don't feel like cooking. Gluten-free tamari is a good replacement condiment, along with grass fed butter and various coconut products (coconut butter is delicious).

I am familiar with the ketogenic diet. I have done it several times, but each time I would always yoyo back. Of course, I hadn't formed a proper relationship with food. Thinking I will give it another shot soon.

 

[Menorahman]

Avoiding those little processed ingredients 100% isn't worth it imo.

Pro Diet

Restrictions: Gluten-free / Lactose-free / Limited Soy / Limited Beans

Protein: White Meat / Pork / Fish | Eggs | Almonds

Good Carbs: Kasha / Brown Rice

Nutrients: Greens / Veggies | Fruit | Olive Oil | Avacado Oil | Garlic | Probiotics

Even if you eat too much on this diet, you would likely gain mostly subcutaneous fat as opposed to visceral fat (aka the dangerous one).

 

[AngelCrusher]

Here's what works and is a little less extreme -

Super low carb for around 2.5 months. That part sucks the first few weeks. It is not sustainable for long term, but hear me out.

The main reason you do this is to lower your blood sugar and burn fat. Your appetite is also far easier to control. You can build healthy low carb meals this way and will eat less. Furthermore, you will build a foundation of a real healthy diet.

When you add carbs back in, you will easily be able to resist the sugars, the white breads..all the "bad carbs" that were irresistible before. You will also have a more controlled appetite and a diet that you built from scratch.

To be honest 90% of what you were eating before seems fine. You probably were eating too much of it or not really balancing your meals out well enough. For me, I just don't eat a lot of carbs on days I don't work out, and when I do exercise, I have good carb meals like a sweet potato stuffed with almond butter (sounds weird, but look up the recipe..its awesome) and this gives me a ton of energy when I will actually use it.

 

[twinjet]

To be honest 90% of what you were eating before seems fine. You probably were eating too much of it or not really balancing your meals out well enough.

I wasn't eating so much outside of paleo either. But the fatty cheeses and meats I could have eaten before would not necessarily be OK with paleo. That's also what helped curb my appetite.

 

[Downunderwonder]

I think ketosis is highly undesirable. It releases very toxic stuff into your blood. Eskimos don't live long on their blubber and meat.

What's your beef with chicken? I know a lot of it comes from very unnatural farms but there is organic too.

I think what you have done is taking you in the right direction sustainably. No need to go on extreme carb restrictions.

 

[Bryan R. Tyler]

I think ketosis is highly undesirable. It releases very toxic stuff into your blood. Eskimos don't live long on their blubber and meat.

What's your beef with chicken? I know a lot of it comes from very unnatural farms but there is organic too.

I think what you have done is taking you in the right direction sustainably. No need to go on extreme carb restrictions.

Lots of misinformation here. Ketosis only produces harmful effects when taken to an extreme that usually only can be met from starvation. It's akin to saying you shouldn't drink water because it can harm you- which it can if you drink too much at once.

Inuit have a huge amount of abnormal factors that lead to their lifespan- their diet is almost solely meat and fat. It's not being ketogenic that harms them- it's a lack of all the important nutrients that come with a varied diet. You can easily be a vegetarian or vegan and have a ketogenic diet. A large number of cultures eat very low carb diets and thrive. Good fats are good for you- this has been shown time and again in modern studies.

 

[elgecko]

Salmon (self-caught)

As a fisherman located far south of natural run salmon, that sounds AWESOME! Is that a seasonal thing thing or can you catch them year round? Spawning salmon always look so beat up in documentaries...are they tasty?

 

[twinjet]

As a fisherman located far south of natural run salmon, that sounds AWESOME! Is that a seasonal thing thing or can you catch them year round? Spawning salmon always look so beat up in documentaries...are they tasty?

Not sure... Mine looked good when I caught them. typically the runs happen a few times over the summer.

Next run is at the end of the month. Lucky for me, it also coincides with a gig not far from the river.

 

[RedVee]

A wide variety of foods in a form as close as possible to natural.

Personally I do best on a diet keeping away from starchy carbs.

If I falter I try to go to the 'better' option. Eg sweet potato vs potato; brown rice vs white rice; plain potato crisps or corn chips vs the flavoured varieties... Have you read the ingredients list on flavoured? Compare them.

Also... Fibre!

 

[fendermademygibson]

I watched a documentary on Netflix yesterday called "Sugar Coated"(2015). It's pretty interesting and I recommend watching it. I take all documentaries with a grain of salt, no pun intended, because they are almost always bias in one way or another. And yes, so was this one.

This one was about the 50+ year debate over sugar in the food industry and appeared to be fairly honest.

Anyway, check it out and form your own opinion.

I know @Joe Nerve has a thread out there somewhere about his beef with sugar.

 

[BboogieXVII]

It's just a clever way to calorie restrict. Don't think it's more or less healthy or unhealthy. That's hugely debatable mainly because there are plenty of ways to eat healthy that are not low carb. Considering one way to eat as THE healthy way is not correct.

Your list has lots of carbs in it and therefore it won't provide the paleo calorie restriction you are going for.

If you eat lots of meats and non carb veggies you will lose weight. You must avoid carbs though.

Skip all grains, condiments, junk food, fast food, soda, alcahol, etc.

Only eat a small amount of fruit. And only if the weight loss is going well. Avoid carrots, corn, rice and white potatoes in any form. These are carb city. As an example of not eating too much: you can have a sweat potato (or 1/2 of one) once a week. For fruits eat a small amount of berries but NOT an orange.

Many paleos avoid dairy. Avoiding it helps with the calory restriction big time.

One of the good things about eating low carb is you don't get sugar crashes. So you binge less. And eating (good) fats makes you full fast. Eating this way actually feels like you are eating a ton but you still lose weight. It's a trick though as skipping all the carbs is what is helping you lose weight.

There are lots of great paleo recipes but in general you don't want to recreate the non paleo meals in a paleo style. It's easy to make a mistake and add carbs back in.

If your fiancee is into it you'll fair better. It doesn't have to be a lifetime diet. You could do it for a year and lose a bunch of weight.

One thing I do when dieting is have one single cheat meal a week. Then if I have a thought to eat something oitside the plan, I just look forward to it rather than indulge on the spot.

LCHF all the way, it's been great for me. Recently got a friend into it and she's lost about 10 lbs in a month. I supplement with fish oil (for omega 3) a multivitamin every other day, bone broth, and coconut oil. I eat plenty of leafy greens and some other veggies. The main problem I have sticking to the diet is plain and simple; alcohol. If I drink then I get kicked out of the weight loss regimen and it takes about three days to get back into it. A lot of the time though I don't need to actually lose weight, just maintain.