I'll chime in to say that the B600H sounds every bit as great as the B200H, only at three times the wattage (plus a mute switch, pre/post EQ DI selector, DI level, tuner out, and effects loop mix level).
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Acoustic B200H head and B410 cab
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I'll chime in to say that the B600H sounds every bit as great as the B200H, only at three times the wattage (plus a mute switch, pre/post EQ DI selector, DI level, tuner out, and effects loop mix level).
It will only support speaker cabs 6 ohms and higher, due to the cheap "STK" power module made in China, like they used to use in solid state sansui stereos. If you try to drive 4 ohms, they clip and blow up- I got one now in the shop and hope one day to hear back from Acoustic about a new chip. [Not a good sign- no phone number on their website, and a phone book search was of little use too. 
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]That doesn't sound good. I'd like to add the 410 to the 115, and I'd like the head to not blow up on me.
Anyone else have/heard of this issue?
Anyone else have/heard of this issue?
clipping like hell? no,mine definatly doesnt do that,and i never get feedback from mine either.i'm guessing that the guy that said that is one of the only ones to have that problem
how would one sound worse than the other?? they are just cabs,the head is the one that controls the tone you get,not the cabs
Has anyone ever tried to run the new acoustic b200h with both a 410 and a 115? any issues with ohms? Sound quality? I would appreciate any feedback. I have the 410 now and i;m running my sunn concert bass with it. It sounds good, but the amp is on its way out and i have a big show coming up, so i was thinking about getting the b200h/115 package deal for 400, which seems like a fiscal way to make my rig sound great. any feedback would be great.
I just picked up the B200H head with the B115 from Guitar Center yesterday. They both rock and as many have said are loud. The six band EQ is nice but does take sometime to get used to but once you get the hang of it, your sound will be amazing. I use my SX SJB-62 Jazz bass for my standard tune songs and it sounds awesome. I just dialed in my Ibanez SR400 with the head and cabinet for our Drop D tunes and I got it to growl with some thundering lows. The high end is a little on the weak side but I'll tweak it some. A word of caution about buying this set up from GC, it comes on their website as a package for $399.99 and the store will price match it if they have the head and the cabinet but be on your toes because they tried to get me to pay about $60 extra dollars on shipping due to the package being an online offer plus tax which brought it over $500. I refused to pay the shipping cost on items that were on the sales floor. As I turned to walk out and they dropped the $60 bucks off of the deal along with an extra cut of $40 bucks. I got a great deal on this because if you buy the B200h head and B115 as two seperate pieces you will be paying right at $500, maybe more depending your area's sales tax. Getting the price match is a steal for this set up but take my advice, watch out for the added costs they try to tack on you.
I researched the whack out of these, and bought the B200H with the 4x10 cab last Thursday evening. I like it more everytime I turn it on. Yesterday I had it in it's first band rehearsal tryout, and it ROCKS...I had a guitar player with a 50 watt JCM 800, and a loud drummer. It easily held it's own, and I never had the volume or preamp over about 1/2 way up. Everyone was commenting on the tone. I'm really sold on this new Acoustic stuff, I don't care what anyone says. I'm an EE and I've been into music for over 40 years...this is a fine rig, no matter what the cost was. I'm thinking about buying another 4x10 just because they're so inexpensive.
You could say I'm happy about my purchase!
You could say I'm happy about my purchase!
I bought a B200H last October to use as a live amp head, running it into a beat up old custom built 4x10 cab. It sounded pretty nasty in the store and I figured since it was only like $250, who cares if it breaks? I didn't expect it to make it through last winter.
I've now played over 150 shows big and small on it since and its still going strong. It can handle gruelling tours and alot of overdrive. I never really need to push it too hard to get a nasty tone that will fill a space, and through a PA system people have said that its absolutely crushing.
I recommend this for any touring bassist looking for something cheap and reliable but that still sounds good. I'll probably use it in my live rig until it falls apart
I've now played over 150 shows big and small on it since and its still going strong. It can handle gruelling tours and alot of overdrive. I never really need to push it too hard to get a nasty tone that will fill a space, and through a PA system people have said that its absolutely crushing.
I recommend this for any touring bassist looking for something cheap and reliable but that still sounds good. I'll probably use it in my live rig until it falls apart
So the B200H and B410 works really well? If so i'm saving another $200 and instead of getting a B200 combo im getting this stack cause then i wont have to upgrade ever haha
I have had the B200h and B410 for about a year now. I have zero regrets about this purchase. Everything has held up very well, the rig still looks brand new. I've played many clubs and the sound guy (sometimes) wont' even run it through the PA. I have had it clip on me no more than 3 times all of which was when I was using a distortion pedal with the gain turned up a bit much. Don't let the price fool you, this is no bargin amp.
Just got back from GC. Tried the B220H hooked up to the NEO 210 & NEO 115 Acoustic cabinet. I really cranked it up in the store and the low end & mid range punch was stellar!!! And that was with the amp set flat using a Squire Jazz 5-String. The cabinets have 2 round ports on the back that pour the low end out. Sounds great, Looks very uniform and make a great stacked rig. I'm sold, I'm in!!! I may consider the B600H head, but I may just be thinking with my little head. This head is really plenty loud I'm sure for the size Bars I'm playing here in Detroit; If I hit a larger venue, I'll piggy back through the house system.
"Live To Play Live"
"Live To Play Live"
ive had the b200h and the 410 for about half a year now. no problems with clipping or any problems with anything else really, and thats with it holding its own against 2 mesa dual rectifiers each with a mesa 4x12, dont regret buying acoustic at all, cant beat it imho
I strongly advise playing the B200h through a different cab than the Acoustic brand. The first time I tried a B200h both the GC rep and I agreed that the 410 is garbage compared to other brands. We plugged that B200h into an Ampeg classic 410... and voila! The thing kicked ass. Sounded literally twice as as good through the Ampeg cab, however I bought a GS212 and like that even better than Ampeg cab. But I'm betting that the DB212 would be the better match for it (never tried one).
Can't say enough about the B200h. It is the exact sound I have been looking for. Only took me 17 years to find it...lol.
Can't say enough about the B200h. It is the exact sound I have been looking for. Only took me 17 years to find it...lol.
I was shopping for a new bass rig last summer. My initial thought was to find something portable and was looking for a good combo and didn't want to fuss with tubes. Looked at the Ampegs but everything over 100 watts had tube preamps. Looked at a used SWR but it was in rough shape. TC Electronic's offerings were definately attractive but seriously expensive. Salesman showed me the Ampeg Micro VR. Cool idea but... noisy fan, noisy electronics, speaker distorts beyond 2/3 volume. Thinking it was the amp's fault, I plugged in a used Acoustic B200H that was sitting there. First thing I noticed was how quiet the electronics were and the tone control available with the six EQ controls and sweepable midrange notch. The the VR 2x10 cab couldn't handle this amp much past 1/2 volume. I noticed a new Ampeg B410HE (200w @ 8 ohms) cab and plugged the Acoustic amp into that. SWEET! Loud and clear. The amp was mint but used so I scored it for $150. Payed only $350 for the Ampeg 4x10 cab due to some shop wear. I've played medium auditorium venues and did an outdoor concert (the day I picked up the rig!) with the set up. Plenty of power. No clipping. Those with clipping issues are probably trying to push low impedence cabs, using the wrong instrument input on the amp and/or turning up the gain too much. The D.I. on the amp has an output level control which allows for fine tuning of the signal output to the sound board. There is no pre/post switch for the D.I. However, it is post e.q. which is what I want anyway. The D.I. is pre effects loop, which is also what I want as I use the loop for a sonic maximizer and all my effects are in front of the instrument input so that they can be modeled by the e.q.. The big brother to the B200H - Acoustic's B600H ($500) adds the pre/post switch along with a mix control on the effects loop, mute switch (also footswitchable), tuner output and a bit more power than the 200. The D.I. on the 600 does not include the effects loop either. Switching the D.I. on the 600 to pre e.q. puts the D.I. output before the mute switch. So, if you engage the mute switch, you will mute the signal to your cab but the sound board will still be getting a full signal. The lower two e.q. controls on the 600 are centered at lower frequencies than on the 200... 40Hz and 120Hz in comparison to 63Hz and 150Hz. (the written specs in the manual are misprinted but if you compare the front panel images of the two units you'll see the center frequencies indicated over each control) The remaining four e.q. controls are the same. For $150 the 200 couldn't be beat. Even at the regular retail of $250 it's still a great deal. For me, the only real advantages of the 600 would be a little more power (something I haven't needed so far) and control over lower frequencies, which would be helpful for 5 string players. G&K's MB200 comes in at about the same price as the Acoustic B200H and is probably worth a listen. It's a tiny, lightweight package. It has a pre/post switch as well as an 1/8" aux input and head phone out so you can practice with your ipod. However, it does not have an effects loop. It has a contour control which functions similarly to the notch control on the Acoustic. G&K's MB500 competes with the B600H with features and price. G&K's Backline 600 (300 watts) is priced between the MB200 and MB500. It was hard too see all the controls in the photo on their website but appears to have a comprehensive array of features. Other amps in the price range are Behringer, Fender Rumble series and Kustom... none of these impressed me much. At the $250 and $500 price points, I would compare the amp offerings of Acoustic and G&K (both are sold at G.C.) and buy what floats your boat for tone and features. Try them with different cabs too as speakers will make a big difference.
Just to add a little to my missive above... Ampeg is entering the world of more affordable amps with their new Portaflex series. PF 350 and Pf 500 ($299 and $399 respectively) are due to be available 2/14/11. I noticed that Musicians Friend is taking pre-orders. G.C. seemed to only have them available in combination with a speaker cab. These are probably worth a listen along with Acoustic and G&K offerings.
I'm a little worried about quality. just received the b410 cab from music123. cab was dead on arrival. no sign of exterior damage. several emails to acoustic with no response. finally opened up the cab and the black wire from the X-over to the 1st speaker was disconnected. not sure if it happened during transit or if it was never connected at the factory. I'm hoping to hook it up again this weekend to see if that fixed the problem. also the cabinet is slightly warped. had to shim the plastic feet so it sits level. I hope these problems are not an indication of things to come
Hey guys, I'm using a Kustom DE200 head for home practice and band rehearsals and I'm thinking of getting a second amp as a backup - pending between the Kustom KXB200 and the Acoustic 200 (to me these 2 amps seem similar). So I have a couple of questions:
1. would you say this amp works better for a vintage / classic type of sound, or you can easily dial in a modern tone, too? Also, do you find this amp to be pretty neutral tonewise, or maybe it tends to "colour" your tone? (the type of music I'm playing - thrash - doesn't require a very hi-fi tone, but in the same type I need it to be tight & focused and not easy to get lost in the mix. I'm not using any effects btw).
2. do you think this amp works best with a more traditional type of bass, or it can make a modern bass (Warwick, Ibanez) sound just as good?
3. how well does this amp handle a low B (all my basses are tuned BEAD)?
Thanks in advance!
1. would you say this amp works better for a vintage / classic type of sound, or you can easily dial in a modern tone, too? Also, do you find this amp to be pretty neutral tonewise, or maybe it tends to "colour" your tone? (the type of music I'm playing - thrash - doesn't require a very hi-fi tone, but in the same type I need it to be tight & focused and not easy to get lost in the mix. I'm not using any effects btw).
2. do you think this amp works best with a more traditional type of bass, or it can make a modern bass (Warwick, Ibanez) sound just as good?
3. how well does this amp handle a low B (all my basses are tuned BEAD)?
Thanks in advance!
