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Me too. My single biggest (if inconsequential) mistake was at a practise, setting up recording of a punk band called the Seers in the mid 80's. So many things to think about, I miked a hi-hat beside the thing, failing to consider what happens when the air rushes out of the closing hat! Mortifying... That one moment made me very cautious about trying to minimise errors when I dare to commit any kind of opinion. :) I already knew some electronics, even then, but that mistake was a doozy, plain and simple.

About the phone lines, that's interesting, I was aware a lot was pioneered by them, but never of how much. I did learn fairly recently that RF engineers have only reluctantly come to see balanced lines as better in many cases than coax, again, without any shielding! I think in this case it is the highly precise making of twisted pairs in 'CAT5' cabling that has led to this discovery for antenna wiring.

CATegory anything was a pipe dream back when At&T ruled the roost. Heck they'd run phone lines on barbed wire if it was already on the fence. Made calling the cows home a lot easier. At best I'd guess most telco twisted pairs might come in at CAT 2 or 3 at best. Then when you got to the wiring closets all bets were off. Magic.

My last studio installation I ran shielded CAT 5 in multiple bundles from the centrally located equipment rack area to all the studios and control rooms. I used it for analog balanced line level and AES digital audio, which in our world is also balanced, and Ethernet for computers. None of it was originally Audio Over IP as is the trend now. It was, for me experimental at the time. Of course I hedged my bet by running a few multi-pair of bonafide digital audio cable. So if the whole idea tanked, I could jumper it over to the good stuff and just use the CAT5 for non-critical stuff. Again, I got lucky, though the Director of Engineering shot me a quick stink eye when I first proposed it.
 
Just want to say well done on taking the time to write a concise explanation:D
Thanks. I tried to make it as non-tech as I could for those who hardly ever deal with it, but yet are smart enough to NOT get into broadcasting. Maybe a bit TLDR? Concise has never being my strong suit.
Y'All go and read the Rane stuff. It's really good, and pretty much non-tech oriented. It also has pictures. I like pictures.
 
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So if the whole idea tanked, I could jumper it over to the good stuff and just use the CAT5 for non-critical stuff. Again, I got lucky, though the Director of Engineering shot me a quick stink eye when I first proposed it.

I am used to the metaphorical oily eye. :) I got it once when suggesting an op-amp and an LM317 regulator as a fast analog laser diode driver. One guy actually went to forums other than where I originally posted, saying to those who had found it and seemed interested, that it wouldn't work. Fortunately, having sent a hand-built prototype to an engineer to try, I got confirmation that it works as advertised.

Mind you, I can see why doctors get nervous about liability with 'off-label' prescribing...
 
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I am used to the metaphorical oily eye. :) I got it once when suggesting an op-amp and an LM317 regulator as a fast analog laser diode driver. One guy actually went to forums other than where I originally posted, saying to those who had found it and seemed interested, that it wouldn't work. Fortunately, having sent a hand-built prototype to an engineer to try, I got confirmation that it works as advertised.

Mind you, I can see why doctors get nervous about liability with 'off-label' prescribing...
Oh man, you got to play with Lasers? Cool!
You'll shoot your eye out > ;)
 
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Oh man, you got to play with Lasers? Cool!
You'll shoot your eye out > ;)

I get by.. :) I did stay away from the real brute lasers though, I learned enough by the time I got to own a few hundred milliwatts to scare me away from the big dogs. I have a little mole in the centre of my left palm from testing a 100 mW 405 nm laser to feel the heat in a collimated beam, and I'm lucky that it's small, round, consistent, and not a melanoma... Nice but truly dangerous toys. I still keep a green DPSS at low power though, I use it as an air quality monitor by shining it across a room at a black metal target. It works well for seeing rapid changes in the air. That 405 nm laser really WAS cool actually, it was the first time I ever saw what some scientists call 'optical tweezers' for holding single atoms. A tiny bright spot held in the focal point, it resisted moderately forceful blowing across it. It was a spooky and beautiful thing.

Got to stop, I think I might be about as off-topic as I can easily get now..
 
I used to be a laser safety person (engineer) for live productions where lasers were used to project images and aerial beam displays. There are both Federal and state safety laws governing lasers used in an entertainment environment as well as FAA rules for outdoor deployments.

At the time, most of the lasers used in these applications were between 5 and 30 watts and used water cooled 480V, 3 phase power supplies. At these power levels they can seriously maim or kill very quickly and can cause blindness in an instant. Multiple safeguards are employed for safety purposes. Most of the lasers at that time were argon, argon-krypton, helium-neon, etc. depending on the color (or white light) This was before high powered solid state laser diodes.

For example, the beams must always be scanned, the scanned beam can not project anywhere an audience (or crew) member might be and mechanical cutoffs (shutters) are used to prevent over-scanning into such areas. There are also scanner failure interlocks, loss of water flow interlocks, mechanical dowsers (substantially built with laser resistant materials), and in the event that a company doesn't follow the rules, the safety officer can disconnect the laser power (not circulating power) at any time. All focusing is done at low power and everyone in the room is aware of the safety procedures and wears laser safety classes. Only after the system and programs pass the low powered tests and "cue to cue" is the power allowed to be increased. I only had to pull the plug on one show that used lasers as a visual element, a band was traveling with an under-qualified laser "company" (not really sure it was a company actually), and in spite of multiple warnings, they were both ballsy enough ANS stupid enough to scan across the production area and the upper section of the audience because they removed the hard masked safety aperture from one of the lasers because one of the band members wanted to see more of the beam scans up higher. I shut the power down to that laser, he threw a tantrum and that was the point that he lost laser privileges for the rest of the evening. I did file a report with OSHA (as an engineer, my credentials were at risk if I didn't go by the book), I never saw them again so I don't know how it ultimately ended. They were p-i-s-s-e-d to say the least, but the other option was to shut the show down and the promoter would be responsible for all the costs, and all the ticket money would be refunded to the audience. Nobody was happy, but nobody got hurt either.

High powered lasers are MUCH more common today in the industrial environment (some of my sheet metal parts are laser cut and laser marked for example), but the safety is always a critical element of operation.
 
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Thanks. I tried to make it as non-tech as I could for those who hardly ever deal with it, but yet are smart enough to NOT get into broadcasting. Maybe a bit TLDR? Concise has never being my strong suit.
Y'All go and read the Rane stuff. It's really good, and pretty much non-tech oriented. It also has pictures. I like pictures.
I’m a tech guy (Telecom Designer) so there wasn’t much new there for me. Just wanted to acknowledge that you did a good job putting that together!
I have read the Rane Material.
 
Yes analog dial tone is almost gone. Even security panels have IP connections now.
I’m not an AV specialist, but I know enough to be dangerous:D

As broadcasters (especially station owners) we tend to be really cheap and hang on to equipment until all the electrons are used up. A lot of that gear was designed to use analog phone lines to connect and control. Having to ween off of dial tone is painful for us.

To date, the VoIP phone system we had at the Univ. where I worked can still provide dial tone circuits and all the other stuff that goes with it. But it was simulated or synthesized, for lack of a better description. Some gear would work with it OK, but a lot of stuff didn't. It was real hit and miss. I was also fortunate that our state offices were still on a Centrex system and I could get real analog lines tied into that.

All the modern broadcast gear is, of course, IP capable now. You can do everything from your smart phone.
I was also fortunate in being able to get a lot of this type of gear. Still there is some dependence on the true analog dial up lines, and they are really inexpensive for us. But I'm out of the game now so it's all someone else's problem.
 
Thanx. Unfortunatly, I'm not in into this things that's why I'm asking.
The only thing I can do is read the specs of the product (hoping they are not fake).
Gotcha!

If you're ever in the market for one, you don't need anything fancy. $10 on Amazon would get you what you need.
I'd stay away from anything sub $10. I've heard of some really bad ones out there in the $3-$8 range. As with most things, you get what you pay for. Continuity testing (Ohm-meter function) is pretty basic though.

Just one example. I have no experience with this.
https://www.amazon.com/Multimeter-C...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584413746984363&psc=1
 
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Gotcha!

If you're ever in the market for one, you don't need anything fancy. $10 on Amazon would get you what you need.
I'd stay away from anything sub $10. I've heard of some really bad ones out there in the $3-$8 range. As with most things, you get what you pay for. Continuity testing (Ohm-meter function) is pretty basic though.

Just one example. I have no experience with this.
https://www.amazon.com/Multimeter-C...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584413746984363&psc=1

I want to thank you, but I don't see very useful to buy this device considering I will use it one time only.
At this point, it's better and cheap to buy the Sommer Cable and if it doesn't work ask for a refound.. or use the additional money to buy the Behringer DI100.

In any case thanx
 
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Gotcha!

If you're ever in the market for one, you don't need anything fancy. $10 on Amazon would get you what you need.
I'd stay away from anything sub $10. I've heard of some really bad ones out there in the $3-$8 range. As with most things, you get what you pay for. Continuity testing (Ohm-meter function) is pretty basic though.

Just one example. I have no experience with this.
https://www.amazon.com/Multimeter-C...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584413746984363&psc=1
I’d spend a few more bucks and get one that will measure capacitance. It’s really handy when you’re looking at those loose capacitors in your parts drawer trying to figure out what the values are.
 
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I want to thank you, but I don't see very useful to buy this device considering I will use it one time only.
At this point, it's better and cheap to buy the Sommer Cable and if it doesn't work ask for a refound.. or use the additional money to buy the Behringer DI100.

In any case thanx
Glad to help. And understand your reasoning.

FWIW, XLR connectors are generally some of the easier connectors to work with. (Says the guy who has done thousands of them ;))

If it didn't solve the problem one could visually see if pin 1 is connected at both ends by opening them up. If they were both connected you could clip the shield on one side. The pins are usually numbered.

Of course that might mean you can't return it. And I get that this may not be where you want to go. But for the general group, someone else might.

Hope your new connector is what they say it is.
All the best. And keep us posted.
 
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I used to be a laser safety person (engineer) for live productions where lasers were used to project images and aerial beam displays. There are both Federal and state safety laws governing lasers used in an entertainment environment as well as FAA rules for outdoor deployments.

At the time, most of the lasers used in these applications were between 5 and 30 watts and used water cooled 480V, 3 phase power supplies. At these power levels they can seriously maim or kill very quickly and can cause blindness in an instant. Multiple safeguards are employed for safety purposes. Most of the lasers at that time were argon, argon-krypton, helium-neon, etc. depending on the color (or white light) This was before high powered solid state laser diodes.

For example, the beams must always be scanned, the scanned beam can not project anywhere an audience (or crew) member might be and mechanical cutoffs (shutters) are used to prevent over-scanning into such areas. There are also scanner failure interlocks, loss of water flow interlocks, mechanical dowsers (substantially built with laser resistant materials), and in the event that a company doesn't follow the rules, the safety officer can disconnect the laser power (not circulating power) at any time. All focusing is done at low power and everyone in the room is aware of the safety procedures and wears laser safety classes. Only after the system and programs pass the low powered tests and "cue to cue" is the power allowed to be increased. I only had to pull the plug on one show that used lasers as a visual element, a band was traveling with an under-qualified laser "company" (not really sure it was a company actually), and in spite of multiple warnings, they were both ballsy enough ANS stupid enough to scan across the production area and the upper section of the audience because they removed the hard masked safety aperture from one of the lasers because one of the band members wanted to see more of the beam scans up higher. I shut the power down to that laser, he threw a tantrum and that was the point that he lost laser privileges for the rest of the evening. I did file a report with OSHA (as an engineer, my credentials were at risk if I didn't go by the book), I never saw them again so I don't know how it ultimately ended. They were p-i-s-s-e-d to say the least, but the other option was to shut the show down and the promoter would be responsible for all the costs, and all the ticket money would be refunded to the audience. Nobody was happy, but nobody got hurt either.

High powered lasers are MUCH more common today in the industrial environment (some of my sheet metal parts are laser cut and laser marked for example), but the safety is always a critical element of operation.
In my world the danger was the potential for a tech using an optical microscope to inspect a fibre connector endface on a cable that was still connected to a transmitter at the far end… It was part of my routine to warn the techs to double check. The light was out of the visible spectrum so you could burn your retina without knowing it.

Thankfully by the time I got out of project management the scopes were digital, so the guys were looking at a screen and I didn’t have to worry about it.
 
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I want to thank you, but I don't see very useful to buy this device considering I will use it one time only.
At this point, it's better and cheap to buy the Sommer Cable and if it doesn't work ask for a refound.. or use the additional money to buy the Behringer DI100.

In any case thanx
A multi-meter (MM) is good to have around, and you may find that it comes in handy beyond this single effort.

My brother was running a big (leased) Cat bulldozer at his new company site last year, and the machine simply went dead - a giant, useless, paperweight. It was a Sunday, so he called me to see if I could help him get running. I brought my MM and a box of blade-type replacement fuses. I was checking continuity of each fuse in the fusebox with the MM probes on the end of the fuses, when suddenly the operator, who was in the cab, started the machine! I was not expecting that....

Turned out that the MM completed the circuit on that blown fuse and the cab electronics came to life. We replaced that 5 Amp fuse and he was back in business, until it blew again. He probably replaced 10 fuses before the tech could come out and look it over. There was chafing on a cable that shorted that wire to chassis/ground, blowing the fuse (over and over). But, I did isolate the problem/fuse and get him running, with my MM. :D

Cheers,