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Advice on exotic scales to learn

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by cliffburtono, Feb 17, 2016.


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  2. P A U L

    P A U L

    Oct 18, 2015
    Los Angeles
    I don't think you need to find a bass only type instruction. Sounds like you want to look up Gypsy scales. In addition to the Harmonic minor & Hungarian, they give you a lot of variations. For a more straightforward/mainstream tonality, I like the Neapolitan scales. They seem more romantic European to me, but, it's all in the way you play them. I think that applies to any of the scales...
     
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  3. cliffburtono

    cliffburtono

    Oct 17, 2015
    Thanks Mark I didn't know about this one. I really like your youtube videos by the way you're a great teacher
     
  4. PullThePlug

    PullThePlug

    Jan 8, 2014
    Sacramento
    I know exactly what you're looking for - Steve DiGiorgio is a huge influence on me.

    Most death metal/extreme metal bands rely on the Diminished scale. Check youtube - there's plenty of explanations there.
    If you're going into the grindcore/powerviolence/noise route, then the Chromatic scale (literally playing one fret at a time, all 12 notes for a complete scale)

    There's more exotic sounding scales that are harder to use, such as the double harmonic scale (think Dick Dale and old school surf tunes, Miserlou is the epitome of this scale).

    Let me know what other questions you have.
     
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  5. cliffburtono

    cliffburtono

    Oct 17, 2015
    I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one! I started listening to him since I heard his fretless playing on Death's 'The Philosopher' a couple months ago. I've noticed his use of particular scales in some of his live playing but most notably in his solo in Dark Hall 'The Pharaoh and the Nomad', do you know this one? It starts at 4 minutes if you want to check it out.

    Along with Jaco his playing's enough reason for me to want to save up for a fretless bass, I just find these exotic notes compliment the fretless tone so well.

    I'm just about to have a look on youtube for diminished scales I don't think I've heard of them before.
     
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  6. PullThePlug

    PullThePlug

    Jan 8, 2014
    Sacramento
    Diminished scales are VERY easy once you understand them - I find it's very easy to find your place on the fret board when in a pinch.

    The intro bass lick is about as generic as it gets for a "metal arpeggio" in the diminished scale. You'll recognize the sound IMMEDIATELY:



    Applying the scale musically is a bit of a challenge... but practice and covering death metal tunes will get you there.

    Once you've got your chops down, try some Atheist or Cynic:

     
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  7. cliffburtono

    cliffburtono

    Oct 17, 2015
    I've recently started listening to Cynic but never came across Atheist before. Thanks for the links and introducing me to them I like their sound
     
  8. Nev375

    Nev375

    Nov 2, 2010
    Missouri
    When in doubt just use your ear and make up your own scale that sounds like you want.

    If you get tired of just 12 notes just hammer in some extra frets and go microtonal.

    Whatever works.
     
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  9. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

    Feb 24, 2013
    SEPA
    Fretless achieve this effect all day long ;-)
    Sometimes on purpose...
     
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  10. Nev375

    Nev375

    Nov 2, 2010
    Missouri
    I hear ya! I practice the "avant-garde" fretless intonation scale. As in "I avant garde a clue where the damn notes are exactly"
     
  11. warrplayer

    warrplayer

    Apr 16, 2008
    Charlotte, NC
    image. This will take you far. Every scale is also broken down into all the modes that you get from starting on the second, thirs, fourth not, etc.
     

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