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Advice on Rack vs No Rack

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by CaptGinyu, Feb 20, 2013.

  1. CaptGinyu


    Sep 10, 2011
    I finally ordered my ampeg svt610 hlf, partly because you guys gave me alot of good information about it.

    I don't have a head yet, and I would like to know if I should get a rack or not. I really want to take care of my gear and I think cooling fans would be nice....
  2. themacinator

    themacinator Always looking for the perfect gig

    Oct 8, 2009
    8,600 feet in the Colorado Rockies
    Endorsing Artist: Babicz FCH Hardware
    What amp or amp/pre are you getting? That will make a difference.
  3. Not all heads are rack mountable.

    Without knowing what head(s) you are looking at, we don't even know if you need a rack at all :confused:
  4. CaptGinyu


    Sep 10, 2011
    I've no clue what amp I am getting. If the amp I buy is mountable, would it be a good idea to put it in a rack?
  5. Steve


    Aug 10, 2001
    Yes it would be a huge+ to put your rack gear in a rack.

    As long as you are the one moving it, it doesn't need to be much of a rack. I use a Gator poly rack and for just keeping it all together, keeping debris and liquids away and giving you a place to keep the small stuff...it's really all the case anyone needs.

    Now, if you gonna let the stuff out of your sight and supervision or God help it let someone else roadie your gear...that's an ENTIRELY different level of rack.
  6. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive

    Jul 1, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    Racks cost a little money to buy, add space and weight to your rig, but they offer protection and potentially convenience if you have other items consolidated into one portable unit.

    Both my heads are racked.
  7. Stev187

    Stev187 Peavey MegaBass Club!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Toledo, OH
    +1. If you're doing all the load in yourself and transporting the stuff in your own vehicle, minimal works just fine. Exposed knobs and faders get damaged easily even on the front seat of your car. For the new lighter heads, a rack bag with shoulder strap is a great option if you are doing all the moving. So protection is the major reason to rack a bass head. If you're gonna hand it to a road crew, you'd better consider some of the shock-mounted stuff (I've never needed this ever).

    Since you're not sure what you are going to drive your 610 with, the other reason to get a rack is if you go with separate pre/power amps, or if you think you might add extra "stuff" into a rack case with your amp (e.g. strobe tuner, wireless receiver, power conditioner, etc.). You can also add accessory drawers to the rack enclosures.

    Final word: if you don't need everything to look brand new, significant savings can be had by finding used racks. For what they are, rack enclosures are pretty expensive. Currently I have 3 rack-mounted heads that see regular use. One lives at the rehearsal space and is never moved, so no rack. The other two are in SKB-type thermoplastic enclosures with lids on both ends. You can't drop or throw these around, but it allows you to stack and slide them with other gear and have zero fears of shearing off knobs, etc. It also gives you a handle; carrying a rack-mounted head that isn't in a case is a PIA and you're just tempting fate with your exposed knobs.

  8. Dave W

    Dave W Supporting Member

    Mar 1, 2007
    White Plains
    It depends on the head IMO. A GK MB200 is rack mountable, but I don't see much of a reason to rack it when it practically fits in your pocket.

    I find that racks adds unnecessary weight and size for the most part.
  9. Stev187

    Stev187 Peavey MegaBass Club!

    Jan 11, 2011
    Toledo, OH
    ^Yes. Obvious exception for micro heads, which fit in your gig bag.
  10. AdamR

    AdamR Supporting Member

    Sep 24, 2007
    Bethel CT
    Endorsing Artist: VF Cables, Dirtbag Clothing
    I love a good rack.

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  11. ccouch7


    Feb 14, 2009
    Me too!
  12. JimmyM


    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    I would still use one if I had stuff that required it, but only under protest because I grew to hate the look.
  13. creis2


    Nov 11, 2011
    Cambridge, MA
    Unless you have stuff to fill the rack, I don't see a point. I used to have a rack head and a preamp in a 6u case. When I downgraded to a VT Bass, I traded my Ashdown rack head for an Ashdown head within a wooden box.

    They're just so darn heavy IMO.

    I agree with JimmyM, I think racks are ugly (of the bass amp variety, as for the female kind, that's another story).