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Affordable Stingray-style bass showdown!

Which would you pick and why?


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I bought my OLP new when they first came out way back when, I went for the natural finish cos it had a body made from Elm as opposed to the Basswood on the coloured finishes, ( Black, White or metallic Blue) and the body is really heavy, no neck dive at all. After re-wiring the pick up and changing the pick guard I'm very happy with it
 
If you want to spend a little more money, you may like the Ray25 (or maybe they are calling it the Sterling Classic 5 now) I tried one in a local store recently and it was an excellent player and sounded great. The deal breaker for me is the slab body, but otherwise great stuff.

I can’t find any here in Australia, or any online at all. I’ve only seen ray4/5 or ray 34/35 and even those are quite few
 
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I bought my OLP new when they first came out way back when, I went for the natural finish cos it had a body made from Elm as opposed to the Basswood on the coloured finishes, ( Black, White or metallic Blue) and the body is really heavy, no neck dive at all. After re-wiring the pick up and changing the pick guard I'm very happy with it

I have one that was given to me a few weeks ago. It's a passive model, but is incredibly LOUD...much more aggressive than any of my other basses. I plugged them all in one after the other for comparison, and the OLP has several decibels on them. Dunno why.
 
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I have an OLP MM3 5 string. Frets were horrible, hardware the worst. But after changing all the hardware and doing a fretboard level and refret it has become a top fave even with the stock pickup. I rewired the pickup to parallel instead of the 1 volume per coil setup and it nails the sound of a passive Stingray compared to my old California made SUB. Which was also passive but used the high end EBMM pickups.

So way too much work unless you enjoy tinkering but it made my favorite funk rock bass and did some of my better gigs.

I haven't played a Harley Benton but what I've seen of the newer SUBs they look much nicer than the OLPs.

But with the volume per coil, when both volumes were dimed, that's exactly what you had, both coils in parallel.

The VVT gives a lot more tone options though... I like mine stock.
 
What about a pickup swap to a MM pickup? Or is the secret in the tone more than just the pickup?
For my ears, the same kind of pickup in the right spot will fool anyone who doesn't know what they're listening to. The Fernandes Axis a post or two above sounds like a Stingray to me. The preamp is only part of the tone if you boosted the preamp on the original. Without that it sounds like a passive MM and just like many of the clones. If the preamp boost is not part of the tone you want passive is fine. You can always add a preamp, or EQ with a pedal or in post.

Just like a J or a P there are many choices on the market without the proper headstock decal that will fool the experts. take any Fender style bass, put in a vintage copy pickup in parallel (not a new boutique one but a cheap Chinese clone of original specs) in the right spot and you too can fool the experts like Joe Dart did.
 
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What about a pickup swap to a MM pickup? Or is the secret in the tone more than just the pickup?
From what I've read, I would say it's the combination of the pickup and preamp. Supposedly, Leo Fender wasn't trying to create a preamp that would cover all the angles, but rather building something with a very distinctive sound that stood apart from his earlier creations.

To that effect, I bought the aforementioned Retrovibe Stinger preamp, which is purportedly a direct copy of the Seventies-era StingRay circuitry, and a Seymour Duncan alnico MM-style pickup for a Warmoth "JazzRay Projekt" I'll eventually finish (...once I work up the courage to stain and finish the damn thing! :banghead: :rolleyes:).

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As far as what to buy, my Standard Operating Procedure, which you've probably heard me mention before, is to find something that feels "right" in my own, two hands first. After that, pickups, strings and electronics can usually be modified and cherry-picked to find the sound I'm looking for. For the latter part, I'll hit up YouTube for as many product demos as I can find. That's how I picked one, particular Bartolini product for Fender Dimension projekt I've been working on recently.
 
From what I've read, I would say it's the combination of the pickup and preamp. Supposedly, Leo Fender wasn't trying to create a preamp that would cover all the angles, but rather building something with a very distinctive sound that stood apart from his earlier creations.

To that effect, I bought the aforementioned Retrovibe Stinger preamp, which is purportedly a direct copy of the Seventies-era StingRay circuitry, and a Seymour Duncan alnico MM-style pickup for a Warmoth "JazzRay Projekt" I'll eventually finish (...once I work up the courage to stain and finish the damn thing! :banghead: :rolleyes:).

c6fWxb0.jpg


As far as what to buy, my Standard Operating Procedure, which you've probably heard me mention before, is to find something that feels "right" in my own, two hands first. After that, pickups, strings and electronics can usually be modified and cherry-picked to find the sound I'm looking for. For the latter part, I'll hit up YouTube for as many product demos as I can find. That's how I picked one, particular Bartolini product for Fender Dimension projekt I've been working on recently.

oooohhhhh, what kind of neck and board is this going to get? Me likey.
 
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oooohhhhh, what kind of neck and board is this going to get? Me likey.
This one! :cool: :smug:

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It's from a Fender Classic '70s reissue Jazz which, in my opinion, fits with the "birth of the StingRay era" groove I want to draw from. And like the Gotoh bridge, the knobs, end pins and output jack are all going to have a Cosmo Black/Smoked Chrome finish.

Also, if your wondering about the tilt on the E-string tuning peg, it's actually a Hipshot Drop-D tuner, thus the skewed angle.
 
This one! :cool: :smug:

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It's from a Fender Classic '70s reissue Jazz which, in my opinion, fits with the "birth of the StingRay era" groove I want to draw from. And like the Gotoh bridge, the knobs, end pins and output jack are all going to have a Cosmo Black/Smoked Chrome finish.

Also, if your wondering about the tilt on the E-string tuning peg, it's actually a Hipshot Drop-D tuner, thus the skewed angle.

Looks great. Can't wait to see a final build thread!
 
Looks great. Can't wait to see a final build thread!
Thanks, Beef! Ultimately, I'm aiming for a transparent red finish somewhere in the burgundy/mahogany-ish neighborhood. I've experimented with a few stains and color-blends, but I may have found a color I like that will only require one coat. Keep an eye on my "JazzRay Projekt" thread. If the weather is agreeable (for a number of reasons, I have to work on this stuff outside), I'm hoping to finish it by the end of summer or early fall.
 
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I was just at my local GC and played a sterling SUB 5 string. I was super impressed with the way it played. The tone wasn't bad either and PUs/preamps are easy to swap. For the $329 they're asking for it the quality and feel were great. It played and sounded better than most of the other basses they had in stock. The neck felt very similar to the MM version, shockingly close for how cheap it was.