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After Ten Years, Fired by Email

Lazylion

Goin ahead on wit my bad self!
Jan 25, 2006
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I'm out of my long-time country covers band.

Yep, 10 years, hundreds of gigs, I even offered BL a room at my house when he & his 2nd wife split up a few years ago. Wednesday I found a dismissal email in my inbox, which he'd sent Tuesday night. Thank goodness I've just gotten a day job after 3 1/2 years of scraping by.

We'd just played Fri & Sat, he could have done it face to face, but he chose the chickenspit way out. Really, dude? 10 years, and you send me an email? And you want to "remain friends"? :scowl:

I'll admit I wasn't pleased with his musical taste. He favors oldies way too much. In fact, we'd made a deal last summer that I would sing my two most recent new songs first, then do all the old stuff he wanted for the rest of the night. I was going to be content with that. He proceeded to ignore the deal almost immediately, but I didn't make an issue of it because I like the other folks in the band and I needed the money.

I did book the occasional gig with another band, just so I could do something creative once in a while. But he wants 100% loyalty on the dates, and also 100% creative control, such as it is in a covers band. I guess the 2-song deal was too much loss of control for him. Sorry, but if I don't get any input, I tend to lose interest.

I considered many angry responses, composed many scathing emails and lectures full of righteous indignation and totally justified vitriol, listing his failings as a bandleader, a friend and a man, thought about packaging up all my band t-shirts and sending them back to him as a statement, but then I thought "what good would any of that do? Is he going to see the light? Become a different guy? Start keeping his word? No."

So in the end I took my cue from Mr. Spock, and sent a one-word response:

"Acknowledged."
 
Well done. Somehow you managed to take the high road and still get a dig in. It can be difficult to find respectful treatment these days, and the music business wouldn't be my first choice to look for it.

Best of luck finding that situation that meets both your creative and financial needs.
 
It'll be alright man just keep on keepin on.
 

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I liked your response to him.

But, if you really want to go up his ___ sideways, go to his next show, stand right in front of the stage and stare at him all night. Don't clap, don't move, just stand there staring at him. It will drive him nuts no matter who he is and how much ball-busting he can take.

In the end, you did do the right thing. Don't take my advice.
 
Really, dude? 10 years, and you send me an email? ..........I considered many angry responses, composed many scathing emails and lectures full of righteous indignation and totally justified vitriol, listing his failings as a bandleader, a friend and a man..... but then I thought "what good would any of that do? Is he going to see the light? Become a different guy? Start keeping his word? No."

So in the end I took my cue from Mr. Spock, and sent a one-word response:

"Acknowledged."

And if he had fired you face-to-face, what are the chances that you would have said all those things that were your first instinct, rather than taking the high road? The answer to that question is why some people handle these situations in this way. Please understand, I am not justifying the behaviour, I'm only trying to explain it.
 
I liked your response to him.

But, if you really want to go up his ___ sideways, go to his next show, stand right in front of the stage and stare at him all night. Don't clap, don't move, just stand there staring at him. It will drive him nuts no matter who he is and how much ball-busting he can take.

In the end, you did do the right thing. Don't take my advice.

Sounds like a waste of an evening to me.
 
of course one fun alternative might have been to pretend like you never received the email, show up to the next practice or gig and force the bl to do the deed in front of your bandmates, thereby causing the guy a bit of embarrassment.

This is brilliant. Or, form a new cover band that does covers of the old bands covers...maybe?
 
I got fired by e-mail as well a while back. It was pretty much the e-mail equivalent of a drunk phone call, though.

That said, that band has gone through at least five bass players since me that I know of, and is currently without one. I, on the other hand, have all the gigs I can handle right now. Winning.