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Aguilar GS 112 speaker replacement

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jesso

May 30, 2008
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#1
Hey folks,

I was in the process of buying a GS 112 second hand, until the guy told me that there seems to be a problem with the speaker (its farting out and flapping).
He says he hadn't used it in quite a while, so its more than likely that the speaker is blown.
He's still willing sell me the cab minus the price of a new speaker.

My question is how much is a replacement speaker for one of these wee badboys, and would this be an opportunity to do a speaker upgrade?

Thanks!
Jesse
 
#3
I called Aguliar when I got a bad speaker, Dave B picked up the phone, comiserated with me, and directed me to the website to get a replacement, which I think was about $75-$80a couple of years ago. It was super easy to install. six screws and the speaker connector all very intuitive. I don't know if anything's changed.
 
#6
I must also strongly recommend the Deltalite II 2512. A/B'd the stock cabs (I have four-two stock, two with the Deltalites)...double blind testing amongst several music folks...the consensus was that the Deltalites were slightly louder, they gave up nothing on the low end or the top end, but were noticeably more present in the midrange. Oh yeah...they are lighter too. The Kappalite 3012 was not available at the time that I converted...I'd be tempted to try them...but the 2512s are awesome in the Aggie enclosure!

Kim
 
#7
I also switched out the originals for Deltalite II 2512s, and I've been very happy with them. They do have more midrange, and you can't complain about lighter weight (although they were pretty light to start with). I get great feedback from audience members and other musicians on the sound of my 2 GS112s with the Deltalites.
 
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rok51 said:
I must also strongly recommend the Deltalite II 2512. A/B'd the stock cabs (I have four-two stock, two with the Deltalites)...double blind testing amongst several music folks...the consensus was that the Deltalites were slightly louder, they gave up nothing on the low end or the top end, but were noticeably more present in the midrange. Oh yeah...they are lighter too. The Kappalite 3012 was not available at the time that I converted...I'd be tempted to try them...but the 2512s are awesome in the Aggie enclosure!

Kim
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I have 2 GS 112's that I've owned for 6 years and have replaced the speakers once and they may be due again.
The originals were rated at 350 watts RMS and those DeltaLights are rated at 250 watts/500 watts music program. Did you notice any lack of gain when using two cabs to gig with when it called for a lot of volume...? Like outside or a bigger venue where you weren't miking your rig? )-(
 
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doktorfeelgood said:
I have 2 GS 112's that I've owned for 6 years and have replaced the speakers once and they may be due again.
The originals were rated at 350 watts RMS and those DeltaLights are rated at 250 watts/500 watts music program. Did you notice any lack of gain when using two cabs to gig with when it called for a lot of volume...? Like outside or a bigger venue where you weren't miking your rig? )-(
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No, to begin with, the Deltalites are louder (as they have more mids) than the stock speakers.
 
#12
doktorfeelgood said:
I have 2 GS 112's that I've owned for 6 years and have replaced the speakers once and they may be due again.
The originals were rated at 350 watts RMS and those DeltaLights are rated at 250 watts/500 watts music program. Did you notice any lack of gain when using two cabs to gig with when it called for a lot of volume...? Like outside or a bigger venue where you weren't miking your rig? )-(
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As Gillento noted, the Deltalites are a little bit louder(they are more efficient than the OEM drivers). The increased presence in the midrange gives them a little more articulation, to my ear, than the OEMs and helps to hear the cabs in a mix. Regarding power handling, the rms rating presumes a continuous signal level. In music, there are peaks and valleys in the signal...hence the 'music program' power rating. I feel reasonably safe in stating that you can give the Deltalites anything you were feeding to the originals and be just fine.

Inside or outside-with or without FOH support, I have never looked back after changing to the Deltalites.

Kim
 
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rok51 said:
As Gillento noted, the Deltalites are a little bit louder(they are more efficient than the OEM drivers). The increased presence in the midrange gives them a little more articulation, to my ear, than the OEMs and helps to hear the cabs in a mix. Regarding power handling, the rms rating presumes a continuous signal level. In music, there are peaks and valleys in the signal...hence the 'music program' power rating. I feel reasonably safe in stating that you can give the Deltalites anything you were feeding to the originals and be just fine.

Inside or outside-with or without FOH support, I have never looked back after changing to the Deltalites.

Kim
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+1
 
#14
rok51 said:
As Gillento noted, the Deltalites are a little bit louder(they are more efficient than the OEM drivers). The increased presence in the midrange gives them a little more articulation, to my ear, than the OEMs and helps to hear the cabs in a mix. Regarding power handling, the rms rating presumes a continuous signal level. In music, there are peaks and valleys in the signal...hence the 'music program' power rating. I feel reasonably safe in stating that you can give the Deltalites anything you were feeding to the originals and be just fine.

Inside or outside-with or without FOH support, I have never looked back after changing to the Deltalites.

Kim
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Thanks so much for this responce... Couldn't be said any better. Just exactly what I was looking for. I will be ordering a pair very soon. Would you have any recommendations for dealers of this driver? Thanks )-(
 
#16
Rick Auricchio said:
www.speakerhardware.com

Also it's good to break in new speakers. Run 25-30Hz at about 10v to get 'em moving, and let them run for up to 24 hours. Use a looped MP3 or a CD or other sinewave tone generator.

If you can hook them up outside a cab, there won't be any noise. Put them face up on some carpet in a safe place.
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Rick... Thanks So Much for the info. I found this website out of Georgia that sells them with free shipping:
http://www.bltsound.com/index.php
I have no way of generating 25-30Hz so I guess I'll just have to play some music thru them. I found this article on speaker break-in on Eminence's website;
http://www.eminence.com/faqs/faq23.asp
I've never broken in a speaker in my life and I've never had any problems, that I'm aware of, from NOT breaking them in. If you don't mind, why would you recommend it? Sounds like it would be a good idea. Thanks... )-(
 
#17
I've bought speakers from speakerhardware.com, and from bltsound I bought casters and other cab parts. Both good places.

You may find an oscillator buried in a signal processor, like a rackmount FX unit. Or download a free program to generate a 30Hz sinewave file on your computer, and burn that file to CD. You'll have to set the CD player to loop the disc.

Another way is to play recorded music through the speakers. If the speakers aren't in a cab, just be careful with how much cone motion you get. If they're in a cabinet, you can just lay it face down; there's plenty of air leakage so that they'll move enough.

It isn't necessary to break in a speaker, but it just gets them closer to the way they'll sound on their own after a few gigs.
 
#18
Rick Auricchio said:
I've bought speakers from speakerhardware.com, and from bltsound I bought casters and other cab parts. Both good places.

You may find an oscillator buried in a signal processor, like a rackmount FX unit. Or download a free program to generate a 30Hz sinewave file on your computer, and burn that file to CD. You'll have to set the CD player to loop the disc.

Another way is to play recorded music through the speakers. If the speakers aren't in a cab, just be careful with how much cone motion you get. If they're in a cabinet, you can just lay it face down; there's plenty of air leakage so that they'll move enough.

It isn't necessary to break in a speaker, but it just gets them closer to the way they'll sound on their own after a few gigs.
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Thanks again. I very much appreciate the time for the explanation. There are two of those DeltaLite's in my immediate future. I just had some surgery on May 11th and I won't be gigging again 'till July 3rd. And I can't do any lifting for awhile so I'll be waiting for a couple of weeks....That is unless I get bad GAS for them... Like I said, the current speakers that are in my GS 112's are 3 years old and I'll be replacing them before they blow this time. Can't wait to try those DeltaLites. Thanks again... )-(
 
#19
I just installed a Deltalite 12 a week ago. For 130 bucks, it is your best choice. It does seem odd though that Eminence does not list them with their bass guitar speakers. And, the Basslite does not compare in quality or tone to the Deltalite.
 

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