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Double Bass AKG C411L

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klem.gote

Jan 18, 2009
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New England
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#1
Hi!! So I just got the AKG mic today. I've never used any kind of mic before so I can't compare it to some of the more high end mics, but I CAN compare it to the Full Circle and Lifeline I'd been using, and WOW!! Now, I'm still playing with it a bit, placement, amp settings etc, and while it's not quite exactly MBOL it's much cleaner, much less uncolored in any way, very impressive. Will get a much better idea of it after a couple of gigs this weekend, looking forward to them. I'd love to know any experience others have had and some ideas about the placement of them mic, how much putty is used etc, anything at all that might help. Very much a mic newbie here. Thanks!!!
 
#6
I've only ever had feedback issues when a stage monitor is pointed right at the bass and there is too much of the bass sound coming right back at the instrument. Even then, it's more of a boominess issue on some notes, and not the squealing kind of feedback.
 
#8
Michael Glynn said:
I've only ever had feedback issues when a stage monitor is pointed right at the bass and there is too much of the bass sound coming right back at the instrument. Even then, it's more of a boominess issue on some notes, and not the squealing kind of feedback.
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Yep, with my C411 I find that as the volume goes up, first certain notes become uneven and wolfy, then undamped open strings start getting hard to control, and only after that does the howling variety of feedback become an issue. Depending on the placement it can be susceptible to things like loud kick drums too, less so the closer to the bridge it is placed.
I've played around with placement somewhat. Currently I have it positioned halfway between the bridge feet, but with the top of the C411 about level with the lower edge of the bridge feet. This gives a slightly more compressed sound with more pizz detail than other placements further from the bridge have, but the feedback resistance is a little better and it's a sound that works for my application.
I still haven't settled on a preamp I'm really happy with. Mine is the C411PP version, and I've been using an ART Tube MP. It's not terrible, but I feel I don't really want the colouration that it's designed to impart, and I think some form of low-cut switch or variable HPF might make it a little better behaved. The Headway EDB-2 ticks all the boxes, but is a bit more expensive than I can go for.
 
#10
Hi, and thanks for the info!! Been moving it around still, finding it seems pretty good below the bridge a little bit between the sound post and the center of the bass. I'm using a Clarus amp. I've found that even with the Master volume at about 10 I barely have to turn up the gain at all to get quite a bit of sound. Interesting. Thanks for the replies!!
 
#17
I'm thinking about picking up a C411. I would be using it with my L.R. Baggs MixPro, either by itself or possibly blending with another pickup/mic. I'm looking at the specs for the mic and noticing the huge bass bump due to the proximity effect, which I know is a characteristic of all cardioid mics. It's about 10 db affecting frequencies all the way up to 500hz! Soooo, how do you all approach dealing with that? I always use an HPF. In fact, these days I'm using two!
 

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