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All these questions about weight?

I've never asked the weight of a bass when buying, and don't post a weight when selling. I have no problem if somebody PMs me asking about weight. They'll get bath scale weight. But as @armybass stated above, it seems that some here feel the need to post "weight?" on a for sale Ad where it was not included. Lacking a weight does not make a for sale Ad incomplete. So how about we knock that off? If you are interested, PM the seller.
 
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My reasoning in that statement was educated by the fact that I have been an auto worker all my life and seen EPA standards change the complete structure of a car. Everything is plastic to meet MPG standards, barely making it safe to withstand a side impact any more! If you have worked on an assembly line for 27 years with millions of repetitious movements, you can say "things were built better in the 70's". Sending basses to Japan or Korea to be assembled to cut costs raises a question in my mind as to their qu
ality and resale value, and tributing a bass to get close to the original? I have mentioned no names out of respect for the manufactures.

Your opinion on vehicle safety is not supported by the data. Cars today are far safer than ones built in the 70s.

Watch How Terrifyingly Bad Car Safety Was Just 20 Years Ago

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Similarly, low-cost basses are better today, in part due to CNC and other technological advances. There are great instruments coming out of Japan, Korea, Indonesia, and China. The US no longer is the only place with high-quality manufacturing. And there are basses still made in the US, with varying degrees of automation. Fender instruments today are IME more consistent and higher quality that at any point in their history (including pre-CBS). Yes, there are some dogs, but the hit to miss ratio with production instruments is far higher than it was in the 70's.

I think new music was better in the 70s, and my body was certainly in better shape back then, but not much else. YMMV. :D
 
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Put me in the I don't care camp.

If strapping on a couple of extra pounds is going to impact me, I'd be better off losing the 50 pounds I need to lose.

It was like this in the cycling world, too - we called them weight weenies - these folks would want to shave a couple of ounces off the bike but then - and get this - they would carry two bananas in their pocket on a ride.

Two bananas! You know how much two bananas weigh?
 
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It is not my intention to anger any of my bass brothers, but for the life of me, help me understand all the concerns about bass weight. I spent 25 yrs playing professionally with a compression fracture in my spine from falling over backwards on my butt bone. My only concern in playing was how comfortable and wide my strap was. Never would the weight of a particular bass keep me from buying it. I just saw a beautiful 70's natural Precision that weighed in at 14lbs., when they used to build basses really good, is this seller wasting his time trying to sell because his bass is too heavy? How many members have accurate scales that honestly give the proper weight of a bass, all I have is bathroom scales and at a loss trying to get the bass I am selling to register. I have thick skin so let me have it, I'm an old man so I've heard some pretty good arguments from numerous women! Ha!
Each to their own.
 
I find the weight issue almost ridiculous. Tina Weymouth had no issue playing a J for hours. Anyone bigger than her should be able to physically handle bass!

Youngin Chun has an average drive of 290 yards (she's not a large woman - 5'4"). Anyone bigger should be able to hit the ball farther...

Put me in the I don't care camp.

If strapping on a couple of extra pounds is going to impact me, I'd be better off losing the 50 pounds I need to lose.

It was like this in the cycling world, too - we called them weight weenies - these folks would want to shave a couple of ounces off the bike but then - and get this - they would carry two bananas in their pocket on a ride.

Two bananas! You know how much two bananas weigh?

Back in grad school I raced Cat 3 on the road and Sport class in mtb. One guy we rode with was the opposite of a weight weenie - he trained for the PanAm games by putting water in his tubes (at least that was the lore - I rode with him when he was in his 50's). He also was physically gifted for riding (amazing lung capacity and ability to clear lactic acid).

I do care about weight, and I don't have 50 pounds to lose. Or any pounds to lose for that matter. But I have multiple bicycle crashes (a few of them pretty bad), multiple motorcycle crashes (two of them landed me briefly in the hospital), and decades of accumulated injuries and wear and tear from competitive sports including both rotator cuffs messed up. My back and neck got so bad I was triggering acute spasms doing Tai Chi (!). My doc said to rehab in the pool or get surgery - I picked the pool. That was 5 years ago, and I swim 4x a week, thankfully the back and neck are rehabbed enough that I took golf back up (which is wreaking its own havoc at the moment - joints get cranky as you age).

But I still won't own a bass over 10 lbs. There are fantastic instruments at relatively low weights, so why would I seek out something that is going to add to my physical strain? As it stands now I'm working through tendonitis and having to revamp my right hand technique to a lighter touch so I can keep playing into my golden years (57 now).

People have different histories, different body builds, and different wants and needs. What is ridiculous to some may be the difference between playing and not. For those that have everything in working order and don't mind a 12 lb bass - more power to you. But not everyone is the same...
 
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Yani Tseng has an average drive of 276 yards (she's not a large woman). Anyone bigger should be able to hit the ball farther...



Back in grad school I raced Cat 3 on the road and Sport class in mtb. One guy we rode with was the opposite of a weight weenie - he trained for the PanAm games by putting water in his tubes (at least that was the lore - I rode with him when he was in his 50's). He also was physically gifted for riding (amazing lung capacity and ability to clear lactic acid).

I do care about weight, and I don't have 50 pounds to lose. Or any pounds to lose for that matter. But I have multiple bicycle crashes (a few of them pretty bad), multiple motorcycle crashes (two of them landed me briefly in the hospital), and decades of accumulated injuries and wear and tear from competitive sports including both rotator cuffs messed up. My back and neck got so bad I was triggering acute spasms doing Tai Chi (!). My doc said to rehab in the pool or get surgery - I picked the pool. That was 5 years ago, and I swim 4x a week, thankfully the back and neck are rehabbed enough that I took golf back up.

But I still won't own a bass over 10 lbs. There are fantastic instruments at relatively low weights, so why would I seek out something that is going to add to my physical strain? As it stands now I'm working through tendonitis and having to revamp my right hand technique to a lighter touch so I can keep playing into my golden years (57 now).

People have different histories, different body builds, and different wants and needs. What is ridiculous to some may be the difference between playing and not. For those that have everything in working order and don't mind a 12 lb bass - more power to you. But not everyone is the same...

I hear ya - we've lived parallel lives. I raced Expert MTB/CX/Road with all the featherweights too even though I was more of a Clydesdale in my peak years. Also had more trips to the radiology dept. than I can count. I was on a first name basis with the intake nurse there for a while! In my early 50s as well, but I've got the genetics of my Scottish and Scandinavian forebears who tossed heavy stones for fun. I'm not a very competitive cyclist anymore but I ride enduro motorcycles these days!
 
I find the weight issue almost ridiculous. Tina Weymouth had no issue playing a J for hours. Anyone bigger than her should be able to physically handle bass!

Ha! I had to laugh at this one. You sound like me 30+ years ago. If there's one thing life has taught me it's that you're bullet-proof until you're not. Live and learn, my friend; the grim reaper takes you a piece at a time.
 
Not all vintage basses sounded good. There are many older fenders that sound great but not all. So I am not in agreement that 70 basses were the era that produced all great basses or to the era for great fenders although I had a great one. There was an article with Mike Tobias who discussed weight He stated lighter basses do tend to be brighter. Once Sadowsky had a similar answer. Many luthiers believe heavier woods produce warmer sounding basses. Although I have a 89 musicman 5 with rosewood neck and heavy but very bright. When dealing with wood all is very general
 
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Sadowsky also said that once he started chambering his basses many players said the tone was improved. I have two of his and both are just under 7.5 lbs. I love the weight. In recent years my heaviest bass has been 8.25 lbs. Bulging disc issues with my neck aside, I just like the way they feel. I have passed on buying basses that have weighed more than 8.5 lbs and wouldn't think of a 9+lb bass, but that's just me. I don't judge anyone who likes a heavier (or lighter) bass and no one should judge me.
As stated previously, why wouldn't you want all the information on an instrument (including weight) before you buy it without seeing it?
 
Yeah it is sorta important, may not be for you, but definitely is for some people. If someone wants to know the weight? All right, what is the deal? I mean I am fairly young but have pretty small proportions for a man. I also travel with my bass on my back on busses and stuff most of the time. One of my basses is like 9.7lbs and the other one is near to that. I mean, I can handle it just allright but something heavier than 10 lbs would definitely concern me a bit.
 
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