always on?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by TrevorOfDoom, Jul 31, 2009.

  1. TrevorOfDoom


    Jun 17, 2007
    Austin, TX
    for those with an "Always On" dirt pedal, such as the VTBass or EBS ValveDrive, have you ever tried it in your effects loop? seems a more natural way to run it, making it a "more permanent" part of your amp and your sound.
    thoughts? comments?

    (JimmyM, i want to hear from you. tell me you've tried this with your VTBass and LMII)
  2. Wasted Bassist

    Wasted Bassist

    Nov 11, 2008
    Fargo, ND
    The effects loop is largely designed for rack mounted effects, as doesn't run instrument level signals through the pedals. This usually ends in a sound very different from running Bass > Pedals > Amp.
  3. TheMutt

    TheMutt Guest

    Apr 28, 2007
    I know that the output of the VT Bass can definitely do line level, but I am not so sure about the input liking line level.
  4. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    +1, though i've never actually tried it to see for myself.
  5. Wasted Bassist

    Wasted Bassist

    Nov 11, 2008
    Fargo, ND
    As I post what I did, I've experimented with having my pedals in different signal locations. The only one that gave me a sound that wasn't gross was the Bassballs in the effects loop. Mixed about 50% gave me a pretty sweet sound. That was before I knew how to adjust the trimpots. Now I get a similar sound in the normal signal location.
  6. bongomania

    bongomania Supporting Member Commercial User

    Oct 17, 2005
    PDX, OR
    owner, OVNIFX and OVNILabs
    No, that doesn't actually have any meaning. No offense, just a fact.
  7. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
    Sorry Trev, I have not. I dislike effects loops immensely. Either they make no difference at all or they make a difference for the worse. All IMHO, of course, but the few times I've used a loop, I hated it.
  8. musicelectronix


    Jul 8, 2007
    Hüstın, TX
    Lead Designer, Zeibek Boutique Pedals
    My essex bass is always on. It is so versatile that I don't need a dirt pedal with it. I crank it up and there you go.
  9. RedCoatMonster


    Aug 14, 2007
    Thomas, OK
    To be clear Im not disputing you here at all, I am truly ignorant.

    What is the difference between running through your amps effect loop and running bass>pedals>amp?
  10. RickenBoogie


    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Pedals run at "instrument" level. Effects loops are at "line" level. It's a voltage/impedance issue.
  11. ga_edwards


    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
    Fx loops are also normally post preamp, so any tonal changes there, eq-ing and colouration are going to affect the signal going into the device in the loop/
  12. RedCoatMonster


    Aug 14, 2007
    Thomas, OK
    Ah ha okay I got ya, thanks. The other posts make sense to me now lol.